Holmes, Shavers, Ali and other great of the past would beat easily Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mike Tyson beats Usyk, Fury, Joshua and Wilder all in a single night

    These guys are terrible. Well usyk isn't terrible, is just made to look like mayweather by the rubbish he fights.
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure about Shavers but Holmes and Ali would indeed beat those 3.
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury and Usyk would be quite competitive in that era imo.
     
  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that was the case why did Tyson lose to Douglas
     
  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Lol! Don’t forget that ‘cruiser’ happened to be the best in history ;) And landed a perfectly timed bomb left hand.

    I thought wilder was “The hardest punching HW In history” and Fury got up from his Sunday best punch twice. Lol Fury way his best has the ability to beat any of those fighters from “The Golden era” imo. His size and herky jerky movement alone would be a problem. Combine that with his ability to never freeze in the big moments would be a problem.

    Now joshua at his best would win some and lose some imo.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, not based on his inconsistency despite the thin record. That doesn't bode well if he fought top competition back to back to back to back to back. Fury said himself he struggles with small slippery fighters in reference to the Steve Cunningham fight and he got hurt bad. Steven Cunningham
     
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  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bad night, no rooney in his corner plus Douglas boxed superb. Just the stars aligned for him
    Still beats all those other guys, they are all bums
     
  8. WBARuinedBoxing

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    Shavers would KO Joshua. Joshua never excelled in one area, he understands boxing techniques and sometimes displays them quite well, but he doesnt know how to sustain pressure, use lateral movement, finish his man, and fight on the backfoot for extented periods of time. If an aging version of him gives Holmes hell, I've no doubt a prime version would do even better against Joshua. KO by 5 IMO

    Wilder would get bombed out even quicker, at least Shavers had a primative method of protecting himself, crouching, basic head movement and such. The way Wilder telegraphed and left himself open would be his downfall. Shavers might have been quite one dimensional, but Wilder truly has nothing but a right hand.
     
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  9. Decker

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    The only memory issues I see is w/ YOU.
    Usyk was not a CW when he faced Fury, and he did not stop Fury. You're posting rubbish - as the Brits would say.

    You're confusing that a real CW sized Jerry Quarry stopped Shavers in *1* round.
    Ron Lyle, who also lost to Quarry, as well stopped Shavers :sisi1

    Shavers was fun to watch, he either KOd his opponent or was KOd himself. Shavers, like the others, would lose almost every fight vs. top modern HWs. His only chance would be to land something big, early. Earnie had a mediocre engine and a worse chin. Yeah, he could punch - by his eras standards.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    Shavers is getting way overrated on this thread he lost to a nobody Bob Stallings, got KO'ed in a single round by Quarry, and got iced by Lyle in 6 rounds.

    Shavers would be the underdog in all 3 fights.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyks yet to lose, seems a bit premature to dismiss him in matchups.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Wilder beat more contenders than Shavers, Cooney, Lyle, and Foster (who never beat ONE opponent in the top ten). Him and Williams are technically tied at 3, but the Williams who fought Ali was a shell of himself. Wilder was clearly much more dangerous than him.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk isn't in the post, who's dismissing him ?
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder yes. Joshua and Fury...rubbish. Either would beat Shavers, who wasn't that good at all.

    Holmes is about as overrated as they come. You are sure Joshua and Fury would have no chance against a guy rocked by Snipes and beaten by a LHW?
     
  15. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Good perspective.

    I volurarily dismissed Usyk because with his technique is the only one who can beat many great HWs of the past. Heres why he is already in the best 10 Hws ever imo. None but you noticed that. You got a hawk eye.
     
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