"Holmes vs. Cooney" 1982...

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  5. MRBILL

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    Cooney was no coward, but he was coddled by his management...

    I say Vic Valle got Cooney ready for Holmes in 1982 the best he could do under the circumstances surrounding the Cooney camp... For being green in 1982, Cooney performed very well for 10 rds...

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    I think someone didn't get enough naps when they were little.
     
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    Trained with Gerry when I was younger. He was class, till his work ethic started to fade. Everybody sure got excited for the Holmes go around, though. I was a pup, and Ger was never the same afterwards.
     
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    Did the 1982 'Holmes' 10 million dollar payday effect him and his outlook?:huh

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    The hell?:huh

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    It is the first totally wrong post by you that I remember I (ever) saw .
    Both fought their usual **** fight with Holmes prevailing by a poor stoppage against another **** fighter. Cooney did not even know the obvious way of fighting a bigger man's fight , he was so dumb. And Holmes was such a lousy finisher , maybe because of his poor punching ability. Watching A Holmes/Spinks/Cooney/Norton fight is a masochistic matter , even worse than watching Ali/Byrd/Jimmy Young or Dominick Guinn fight.
     
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    WOW! Way out there, dude........ I thought they (Larry & Gerry) fought a great fight in '82 and both rised to a level neither had been before----more so Cooney then Holmes... Larry was way more proven in good, hard fights with "Shavers, Norton, Weaver & Snipes," but Gerry C. fought well for 10 rds in 1982 before fading and losing his grip on his fight with Larry Holmes...

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  14. Rico Spadafora

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    This is from the May 4th 1981 issue of Sports Illustrated


    Would have been interesting to see how Cooney developed under Cus D'Amato instead of Victor Valle. I think he would have been a more well rounded fighter. Not saying Valle was not good he was very competent but I think Cooney would have been better off with someone else. The talent was there it just was not managed and molded correctly. I also would have liked to seen Cooney fight Weaver in 1982 which was certainly a more winnable fight for him then take on Holmes in 1983. Cooney simply was just not ready for Holmes in 1982. He needed more experience.
     
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    "The Whacko Twins" were only interested in money; not developing skills... They were over confident in Cooney's hook.... BIG MISTAKE!

    I too would've loved to have seen Cooney go after Weaver first for the WBA title.... Cooney prolly would've parked Weaver in '82..

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