Holmes .vs. Frazier '77

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Late '77 An aged Frazier against a still green Larry Holmes. Who would win this battle? 15 rounds.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    frazier never beat a title holder level opponent after 1971, its a missmatch. the 68-71 frazier would smoke a pre championsip holmes though.
     
  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    I like Holmes big here. By late-77' Smoking Joe would have been a mere shell of his former self. A razor-sharp Holmes boxes Frazier's ears off to win an easy decision. I also do not rule out a TKO or corner stoppage if Frazier's eyes swelled shut.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    A prime for prime fight between these two could've been an all out classic...but this would've been an awful mismatch. Frazier was coming apart at the seams by this point. His body wouldn't take a fight with any pro version of Larry Holmes by then, I wouldn't think.
     
  5. alexvoce

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    frazier too old holmes would stop him unfortunately
     
  6. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe is completely finished at this stage. Holmes to win big
     
  7. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I always thought Larry at his best beats Frazier at his best. Joe was 207 at his best and Larry a little more an Larry was tall and I think he would stop Frazier in the late rounds. 1977 or 1971.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frazier did run Muhammad Ali close in their 1974 and '75 fights. particularly the latter one,and Muhammad was still capable of beating anyone in the world,at that time. In this scenario,Holmes would have heralded his arrival as a top contender by easily decisioning a rusty post Manilla Frazier.
     
  9. ThinBlack

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    Joe has a shot, and could probably put Larry down if he isn't careful, however, I could see Larry using that superb jab, and stopping Joe late, probably around the 14th.
     
  10. Stevie G

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    A total mismatch. Joe was completely shot by this point,sadly.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Even at their respective peaks, Larry Holmes would have a very live chance of decisioning Frazier. By 1977, Joe had little left to offer and in all liklihood would have been a mismatch.
     
  12. AnthonyJ74

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    Prime Frazier would have been a tough fight for Holmes. Holmes had more talent and more skills, but Frazier had more power and a wear-you-down, aggressive style that might have caused Holmes to wilt. I see Holmes jumping out to an early lead, but by the middle rounds, I see Joe coming on strong. Could Larry take it to the body and head as well as Ali? I don't know. Could Frazier cut off the ring, corner Holmes, and make him fight? I'm not sure. But it would have been a great fight! I think Frazier's style would have pushed Holmes to the limit though.
     
  13. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You didnt see your other post i take it:D?
     
  14. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes late ko wide pts. Joe too far gone, Holmes of 77 would have beaten Ali of 77.
     
  15. JWSoats

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    Joe Frazier retired for the first time after losing a second time to George Foreman in 1976. He really didn't have it anymore and he knew it by then. In 1977 Joe would have been even less formidable and would have been little more than a stepping stone for Larry Holmes in his climb to contention. Holmes by a big UD or late round stoppage.

    Now P4P Frazier - Holmes, that's another matter and a great fight.