Holmes vs spinks rematch. Robbery or no ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mr. magoo, Nov 14, 2021.

Did Holmes get robbed ?

  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jun 26, 2009
    I think robbery is too strong a word. I thought Larry lost the first and won the second but not by such clear, overwhelming margin that no one could see it Spinks’ way.
  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    I thought it was a very bad decision. Spins lost that one.
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    That depends. How would either man winning affect the ATG standing of my pet heavyweight favorites?
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 52-0 banned Full Member

    Sep 22, 2021
    Rocky Marciano > Lennox Lewis
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Pat is on the money. Tho comfortably in the minority there are enough cards for Spinks to reign in the description of "robbery". Eddie Futch said Spinks won both. UPI had it for Spinks and from memory Farhood scored it for him tho it may have been Ryan. Punch stats have it very close. Spinks has 7 or 8 cards favoring him at EOTR.

    Having said that 42 out of 46 writers scored it for Holmes. Even if you conclude there's a bit of nostalgia in there for a beaten champ it's still a big number. So not quite a robbery but not all that far off either in the eyes of the majority.
  7. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 26, 2011
    Both fights were close,too close to call them robberies ,imo.
  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 26, 2009
    no, when the fight went the distance I knew it would be close the first time, and in the fight Spinks looked closer to Larry's size than I thought he would. I was expecting a guy a lot smaller, and if we see it he was not much smaller really. The second fight I thought maybe Holmes edged it, but he didn't get Spinks out of there, and those fast combinations got Michael points. Michael was a great fighter. So was Larry.. Who was greater is the question.. I would say altogether Michael, but some can say Larry was past it at this point. Regardless, it was a great accomlishment for Michael to go 15 rounds 2 times... But a robbery? Not going 15 rounds and how Michael's combinations looked.
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Close, maybe not Robbed but close enough to argue about it.
  10. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

    Nov 17, 2018
    I thought it was a robbery and Holmes clearly won it. I thought Spinks won the first one.
  11. exocet76

    exocet76 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Feb 28, 2012
    I remember at the time thinking Holmes was robbed but watching both fights again fairly recently they were a lot closer than I remembered. When they are close it's annoying if it's your fighter but it's not a robbery not when there a round or two either way.
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    Il was a complete robbery,one of the worst decisions I ever saw
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 9, 2010
    I wasn't convinced Spinks had won the first one. It was such a tepid display from both men and not a convincing victory but, nonetheless, nothing particularly controversial.

    The second saw a more tuned in, albeit still past-it Holmes in a less tepid display, do much better.

    For me, that was a clear Holmes victory, even if you give Spinks the benefit of the doubt on a couple of the close rounds, and it could easily have been scored 145-140 in his favor.
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  14. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" Full Member

    Oct 25, 2020
    I thought Holmes won the second one but robbery feels strong
  15. jabber74

    jabber74 Member Full Member

    Oct 5, 2012
    Have not seen it since the night it aired, but at the time, as a kid, I remember scoring it on paper that night and my dad and I both thought Holmes won the rematch. By about 3 rds as I recall....