Holmes vs spinks rematch. Robbery or no ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mr. magoo, Nov 14, 2021.



Did Holmes get robbed ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    31.8%
  1. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Anyone who should've won the fight, and didn't, was robbed. What's the rule of thumb for a robbery and how many points differential is the benchmark? I think I had Holmes by 3 points, can't remember.

    Spinks won the first battle outright and Holmes did more than enough to regain the strap.
     
  2. Rakesh

    Rakesh Active Member Full Member

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  3. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    i thought Holmes won but nah not a robbery just a close fight. hard to tell effective punching on tv too so maybe the judges saw something we didn't?

    i reserve robbery for stuff like Holyfield - Lewis 1. or really, the most common robbery in boxing is when the hot prospect loses a 6 rounder but gets the decision to keep his "0".
     
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  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a very bad decision; Holmes won, but I think maybe the judges were influenced by the first fight, which Spinks rightly won, and Larry called wolf...


    As mentioned by some here, I too tend to interpret a robbery as a bad decision that also has the hint of corruption to it. In this case I just think it was just down to poor judging.
     
  5. JabbaTheGut

    JabbaTheGut Active Member Full Member

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    I've scored it both ways in the past
     
  6. Barrf

    Barrf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not highway robbery, but a bad decision. Holmes won the second one fairly.
     
  7. Barrf

    Barrf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm almost done with Larry's book. Reading how shitty he was treated for so long by the entire sport (the exception being Ali himself), I cannot blame him for the chip he had on his shoulder. Even Cosell was a dick to him until the first Shavers fight.
     
  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's been my scorecard every time I've watched the fight.

    I scored the first one exactly one point for Spinks.

    It bears mentioning that not once did Spinks actually hurt Holmes in either fight, but Holmes hurt him many times, especially in the 2nd.

    One of the biggest bummers for me in reference to that second fight was watching Holmes hurt Spinks really bad in the final rounds, then completely, mysteriously fail to finish him.
     
  9. Rakesh

    Rakesh Active Member Full Member

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    This for me too.

    I knew Holmes for being a slick out boxer and once he knew you were in trouble it was practically over. When Spinks got out the round, it was almost a definite ending to Holmes prime if it wasn't obvious enough.