Holmes vs. Tunney

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Can Gene pull it off?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Holmes by decision. But Tunney’s constant movement and illusiveness might frustrate Holmes along the way
     
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  3. HomicideHank

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    Tunney's too fast. Not much smaller than prime Holmes either. I like his chances. Decision.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Tunney would be a hard fighter for a lot of heavies and cruisers to beat. He was durable, fast and had a high workrate.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No.
     
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  6. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  7. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    No. Hell no.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A more interesting question would be could Tunney beat the 35 year old version of Holmes that Spinks beat.
     
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  9. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I believe that no version of Gene Tunney could beat any version of active Larry Holmes.
     
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  10. Claude

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    Not even old Holmes?
     
  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gene couldn’t carry Larry’s jockstrap.
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’m going with Holmes but I don’t think Gene is easy night for anyone. Watch that old colorized footage of Gene against Gibbons - that jab from the hip is piston quick and when he wants to get leverage into that right hand he really throws it. But I think Holmes a little bigger and little better. And if Holmes can get up from Shavers, Snipes and even Tyson’s right I don’t think Gene can keep him down at all.
     
  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m obviously not picking Tunney in a straight fight, as size &, more importantly, styles, are against him here, but he had twice the career Holmes had.
     
  14. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have not too much doubt honestly that Tunney could beat the Holmes of 1985-86.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Not at heavyweight.
    Dempsey Champ
    Dempsey was no 1
    Risko was no13
    Spalla was no 10
    Gibbons was no 3
    Heeney no 4
    Let's look at these 5 men.
    Dempsey had been out of the ring for 3 years when Tunney out boxed him in their first fight.
    In their second one he caught up with the loping Tunney,but refused to go to a neutral corner,which allowed Tunney extra time to recover.Once back on his feet Tunney returned to boxing on the retreat and Dempsey did not have the legs or stamina to get to him.He was no longer the Manassa Mauler.

    Risko was an in and outer with a 19-7-0record ,that year the Ring ranked 15 men otherwise he would not have been ranked.he sc****d in at13.

    Gibbons 34 years old was having his last fight,and ,like Carpentier and Levinsky was in significant decline.

    Spalla never beat anyone worth talking about and his inclusion at no10 just illustrates how shallow the talent pool was.

    Heeney getting a draw with Sharkey enabled Tunney to bypass the more dangerous Sharkey and end his career on a winning note.

    Six fights with 5 ranked men.

    Thats it!
     
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