Holy crap Mijares is overrated

Look at you, blaming Floyd for Mijares' shortcomings. Floyd is not the problem here. Mijares' career isn't over, but it took a serious hit. Ask Arce what happens when you get wiped out like that. That guy was on the brink of stardom and now he's still trying to recover; fighting on crap cards in Mexico instead of on HBO. If Mijares had Floyd's mental approach and skillset, he would never get wiped out like that. When have you ever seen Floyd mentally unprepared?

 

Good post. I had to hear so much **** about how great Mijares was and how supposedly inferior Donaire was. ****in Donaire wiped the floor with Darch and destroyed Maldanado when he wasn't even at his best. How did Mijares do against these guys? It's the same **** with Gamboa. That makes so many mistakes and has been put on his ass 3 times. However, all his fans do nothing but make excuses for him.

Oh yeah, how about them Phillies? Sorry man, I had to bring up.

 

I'm simply questioning how genuine some of these ESBrs are by disrespecting a professional athlete because he lost a fight. I don't make excuses for Crisitian Mijares, I defend him because a lot of what has been said in light of the knockout is unacceptable. "Mijares got exposed, Mijares is a bum, I hope I never see him in a ring again". The Esbrs you're refering to aren't making excuses, they are just defending a man who deserves much respect against some unwarranted nametags, such as "bum" and "hype".

Which makes it all that more embarassing to see Vic Darchinynan avatars littered on ESB. Where are the days when fight fans followed a fighter through and through, and just on the back of an unsuspected win? The majority of ESB gave the same treatment to Vic after he got knocked out by Donaire, and after Mijares is given the opportunity to bounce back like Vic, Mijares will no longer be a "bum", "hype", and the guy who never wanted to see him in a ring again will either have cancelled his Internet connection or changed his name. Embarassing how fickle ESB has become.

Marco Antonio Barrera wasn't in his prime.

He can stick a tripple jab, he moves his head instinctively to either miss punchers or lower the impact, mixes it up to the body and head, has shown a good beard by taking stiff shots from punchers like Arce and Munoz, and that all helped him unify a division. Sure, he lacked power, but his defense was better than average, and his handspeed is slightly above average.

Munoz had a great record and was a champion, with 27 knockouts in 32 victories. Mijares practically won a shut out. He also went to Japan to fight Kawashima, and actually won a decision after showing the guile to get up off the canvas. Many fighers would never do that again, but Mijares fought a rematch, in Japan again, and knocked his man out. He dominated Arce who has been at the highest level for a good part of a decade. Navaroo was a talented fighter also, Mijares has been fighting good fighters in his division, and intended to unify all the titles. Deserves nothing but respect.

 

Yes, it was not a bad night, it was a VERY bad night indeed.
But I tend to NOT dismiss a fighter after just one really bad fight, especially if there is a possibility of a rematch.
Sometimes, it's just a styles thing. Should we write Cotto off just because he got destroyed in one fight (against his stylistic nightmare, Margarito)? I think not. Should we write off Mijares (dismissing his previous accomplishments and display of skills) just cause he lost one fight big time, where styles were obviously an issue? I think not.
What do you think?

 

I wasn't blaming Floyd for Mijare's shortcomings, I was blaming it for the poor, dismissive, and naive attitude of fans at Eastside Boxing. When a fighter loses, it's the end of a career at this place.

 

Look Gamboa I can see "something" hes dynamic. Will that translate into major success??? Just ask Zab. With Mijares what stuck to me him getting hit alot. I do recall you as one of the few who held back when everyone was jumping on the supernatural bandwagon when he was suppose to wipe the floor with Donaire...You were like whooaa!! wait a minute here folks, I dunno about that

As for the Phillies, I never expected it...it seemed that they were missing something (Starting Pitching). They were overlooked..no doubt like everyone else in Philly. I like that team.

 

That has nothing to do with Floyd. Fans, of all sports, are passionate and react as such. Had Mijares took apart Darch like that, you would see a bunch of people talking about him as an ATG. How much Mijares dick sucking went on here before this fight? It goes both ways.

 

I thought Mijares was good, but I didn't know why he was hyped that much. Conversely, I was more impressed by Donaire and never got why some posters were so down on him.

Yeah, many people slept on the Phillies. When you've been as bad as the Phillies have been, it's hard for people to believe in you.

 

That isn't what I asked you. I asked you whether or not you felt Mijares is a world class operator. Boxing doesn't begin and end with a top 10 P4P list. Well, it does for a lot of fans at this place, but not for the hardcore.

It's one more reason to respect Mijares instead of calling him a "bum". My only reason for being on this thread is to bring to light that the attitude of fans is wrong, not that Darchinynan doesn't deserve full credit for the win.

Irrespective, Juan Manuel Marquez won the fight according to me and a lot of Boxing people. Getting a decision in Japan is a hard thing to do, and one more reason to respect Mijares.

It doesn't undo it. Good.

You're missing my point entirely. I accept the fact Mijares isn't as strong mentally or as versatile as some at ESB have made him out to be. For whatever reason, he couldn't adapt against Darchinynan, but he didn't lose to a tomato can, he lost to a world champion. I'm simply saying, before dismissing Mijares career, let's see how well he rebounds from his defeat.

 

Wasnt Cotto doing well in that fight until he just got overhelmed in the end by Margos relentless pressure? He boxed beautifully in that fight...And BTW Margo was a very live underdog in that fight..you wouldnt have read even in this overzealous forums that Cotto will school or be too much for Margo.

 

The "dick sucking" was equally as ridiclious, and I'm happy to say I wasn't apart of that, but I'm talking about the now. The Floyd comment was tongue in cheek, but fans of Boxing, who claim to be knowledgable react crudely when a talented fighter losing a fight. The guy has lost a fight, and now he is a "bum". If you warrant that kind of behaviour, that's your choice.

 

Fair points.
I have to clarify, though, that I'm not making any excuses for Mijares, I'm not even a fan of his. Vic gets big props from me for the SHOCKINGLY one-sided win. I just say that I would like to see how Mijares does in a possible rematch with Vic, before I declare him overrated as many have done already (and in a very bad way). Simply cause in his previous fights he showed some great skills.
Btw what were the odds for Vic/Mijares?

 

He he has the ability to perform at a world class level, we'll see how he recovers. However, I don't think he has world class handspeed, defense, or power.

I specifically said Mijares wasn't a bum. However, he's been overrated by the boxing world.

There are controversial decisions in every country. How many people complain about decisions in the U.S, Mexico, Canada, Germany etc.

I never dismissed his career, I dismissed the notion that he lost because he came he was arrogant.

 

I'm not warranting anything. However, fans are prone to react in a dramatic fashion. I'm not about to complain about some **** that's not going to change. I'm a product of the Philadelphia sports scene. The overreactions by fans here is incredible. That's how it goes in sports. Mijares got a crazy amount of hype when he was winning, and now he's getting trashed after he got dismantled. That's just the way it goes. Hell, he's lucky, there are plenty of fighters that get trashed without even losing.

 

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