Holyfield 5th title

WBO has never been seen as a real WORLD title at heavyweight. Apart from by wlad who gets disengeniously anounced as the 2 time world champion on the basis of the WBO title which if you look at its holders and history has always been an irrelevancy, often vacated for shots at real titles or even just discarded.

 

Everyone knows not to take you seriously whenever Lewis is concerned.

As a heavy Lewis is clearly superior.
P4P I have Holyfield slightly ahead as he's clearly the best Cruiser of all time.

 

In fact Ruiz refused to fight Lewis, he let don king take Lewis to court to have him stripped of his belt rather than to accept the title fight which Lewis held open for him to take place in july 2000. The WBA didnt strip Lewis, they allowed him to fight Grant if he fought Ruiz in july 2000 which he agreed to do in London, Ruiz was replaced by Botha.
King had Lewis stripped of the belt by the court due to a contract clause in the Lewis Holyfield contract. The WBA were against this action. Ironically Ruiz would have got his shot against lewis in July but had to wait until August for his title fight against Holyfield after the court case.

As for your excuse about Holyfield having a medical condition, well dr goodman of the nevada commission came out recently and said that that heart murmur he had was a classic sign of HGH and steroid abuse.

 

Bowe Knocked out Evander in his prime it was the tail end of his prime but he got it done, Also lets not forget Bowe was widely considered the best Heavyweight in the world when this happend, and When Lewis was knocked out by Both McCall and by Rahman were they considered the best Heavyweight on the planet then? Hell no they were not.

 

Source? Evander Holyfield has never once tested positive for Steriods.

 

Byrd and Ruiz????

 

He has had 9 losses in his career for gods sake officially and another 2 or 3 unofficially, how can he be above Lewis? Lewis was the dominant undisputed champion and Lewis beat him twice during that rein as well.
The first fight result being one of the most corrupt boxing decisions known to mankind.:hi:

 

I know I'm going to sound dumb as mud for asking this but what the hell did Holy do to be considered better than Lennox Lewis?
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Sorry, I don't get it.

 

Right place at the right time? No that was Holyfield when he was awarded the title fight with the worst Heavyweight champion in the history of the division (next to Ruiz....who beat Holyfield ) Buster Douglas. Then Holy followed up that amazing victory over the 400lb Douglas with two wins over two greats that fought Muhammad Ali they go back so far, Holmes and Foreman. Then he went on to lose 2 out of 3 to Bowe. Bowe? Best Heavy at the time? I'll aske again....what else did Bowe do besides beat Holyfield??

 

Lewis was great, but no way can he be placed in the top 3 of all-time. That's ludricrous.

As for Evander Holyfield, he's by far the best win on Lewis's record, and if he's over-rated then I dont see how beating him when he's 36/37 in the fashion that Lewis did would warrant Lewis being held in such high regard.

Truth is, Lewis was ROBBED OUTRIGHT in the first match and he also won the second match, but his performances were hardly amazing.

The Holyfield who beat Douglas in 1990 was better than when he lost to Lewis in 1999, and Lewis (who was probably still at his best in 1999?) couldn't knock him down and Holyfield seemed to be working Lewis out in the rematch.
There cant really be said to be much between them.

Anyone who says Holyfield is miles ahead of Lewis is full of ****.
And anyone who says Lewis is miles ahead of Holyfield is full of **** too.

 

What!! Your criticising Lewis for not fighting Byrd and that fearsome collosus Ruiz!!atsch :rofl

 

I would favor a few guys on Lewis's resume over the version of Tyson that Evander beat.

 

Never deserved his 4th title, so no.

 

I criticise any Champion who does not face his mandotory just as the vast majority of you here were giving **** to Margarito when the idea of him dumping that title to fight Cotto came about.
Lewis did not fight two mandotorys and a fight with Byrd might have actually been a good fight considering that Byrd found a way to make Vitali quit, Byrd has had a history at that time of standing in there with Big guys and winning, Both Vitali and Tua, I think that Lewis should have took that fight, but I am sure he had a good reason not to, Byrd back then didnt stand in front of you the way he did with Wlad, he just made you look like ****, which is exactly why Lewis didnt fight him.
Ruiz is another fighter who will make you look like **** but i understand not wanting to fight him and I also understand that they did offer Ruiz a fight, and Ruiz then went along with Kings game to take the **** to court, However IMHO Champions Should and Must defend and face their mandotorys.
Why is it, Margarito gets hell for considering dumping a meaningless title to fight for a worthy title and a better name on his resume, yet Lewis and Mayweather and Jones Jr are all allowed to pick who they want to fight ?