Holyfield-Ibragimov: Who are you rooting for?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by achillesthegreat, Aug 12, 2007.


  1. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ibragimov, because Holyfield winning would be embarassing for boxing and secondly it might cause it would open a dangerous can of worms, like the possibility of Holyfield fighting someone like Wlad, although I think Wlad has too much respect for Holyfield to step in and destroy him at this stage of his career

    But I think Ibragimov is going to pummel Evander. He might not be great but Sultan is much better than anyone Holyfield has fought since he got outclassed by Donald
     
  2. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Holyfield Holyfield!
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    That's kinda the way I see it too.
     
  4. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    Holyfield for two reasons.

    One, Holyfield is one of my favorite fighters.

    Two, Ibragimov is overrated as all hell. I hope he gets exposed.
     
  5. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    The Old Holy Warrior will do it! Hate to say it but Ibragimov is just an overachieving bum.
     
  6. papaspank

    papaspank Member Full Member

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    Evander "Real Deal" Holyfield

    Been a fan from the start.
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ach...

    I have much more respect for Holyfield, it's not even in the same league.

    On the other hand, a win for Sultan would be better for the division's credibility and would halt Holyfield's inevitable date with the fists of a serious and uncompromising heavy hitter on his Quixotic quest for unification.

    If I thought Holyfield would retire if he won the belt, it'd be simple...but I know he'll not only continue, he'll see this act as justification to carry on even if he gets knocked out twice in a row afterwards.

    ...I really can't pick. Fence-sitting I know, but I see the good and bad in both outcomes.
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Alot of people say its better for Sultan to win.

    IS IT?

    Ultimately what credibility will he bring to the division? Dominance? Will he beat Wlad or Vitali or Peter?

    In Holy you have history, a name and maybe this is what will finally rid boxing of Holy. He can win the title, get destroyed by Wlad and then say he was five time champ.
     
  9. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A win for Sultan will bring a shred of credibility. If this version of Holyfield, 44 years old, having lost badly to the last 3 decent opponents he fought, having no wins over a rated opponent since 2002, wins, it's an embarassment that he was able to capture even a fraction of the heavyweight title.

    But, again, I think people are seriously underestimating Ibragimov if they actually think he's going to lose to Holyfield. Sultan may not be great but he's easily the best opponent Holyfield has fought since he lost to Donald

    And if Holyfield fought Wlad or Vitali or Peter and was beaten up and badly injured it would just give boxing's critics that much more ammo
     
  10. LeedsLad

    LeedsLad Active Member Full Member

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    Im rooting for Holyfield, but i have my doubts as to whether he will win
     
  11. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I couldnt possibly care any less!
     
  12. youthmann

    youthmann A NEW KING IS BORN Full Member

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    Grand pap wins - go holy.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Is this true?

    Foreman and Holmes had a bunch of average wins, a loss or two and maybe one good win.

    Holyfield has a bunch of average wins, a loss or two and did beat Oquendo who should be ranked fairly well. Holy comp is less than Holmes and Foremans but Ibrag is less than Mercer and Moorer.

    I agree Ibrag has the youth and tools to beat Holy at this age but I am hoping he hasn't got any size and thus Holy is in it. Late in the fight, while behind, Holy musters it ALL up in one LEFT HOOK!

    I'm going for the underdog but its a great story and I'm a sucker for hype.
     
  14. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman and Holmes during their comeback runs never got dominated in near-shutout fashion by a aging former contender like Donald, and neither were dominated and stopped by a former middleweight

    For one, Holmes never regained a portion of the title, he lost to Holyfield and McCall in his two title shots in his comeback attempt.

    Second, Foreman prior to beating Moorer on his comeback journey had only lost to Holyfield, the champ, and Morrison, a respected and talented contender in his prime
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Both arguably got beat by fighters who aren't supposedly legendary.

    Holy never pitted a comeback so didn't go through trash. When he did, and started picking his fights he has pulled off a good streak.

    Holmes beat Mercer who was the WBO champ. Mercer never lost that belt in the ring.

    Holmes and Foreman both looked past it but still had 'something'. If Holy has that 'something' then he deserves the W and is a real reflection of the trash that is todays division.