Holyfield in Tyson's place 1986-1989

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  1. SambaKing

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    Get out of here haha! You were outed. You had the same IP address as the new account called James *something*, and he's not been back since making that Tyson thread.
     
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  2. rski

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    I was under the impression the thread was about how Holyfield would have done in Tyson's place durign that 80s run. Its my view that Tyson always looked more impressive that Holyfield, despite the possibility Holy was the better fighter.
     
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    well yeah I'd agree on that one, but there are others Tyson opponents in the 80s that I would say are not as poor as the detractors would like to think.
     
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  4. SambaKing

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    As for the thread, Holyfield is a phenomenal fighter but he just comes across as one of those guys that can easily have an off night. I wouldn't be surprised if he had an off night and loses to a fighter with the calibre of Tucker.
     
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  5. slash

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    well, it never looked like that to me, that tyson was more impressive. holyfield '84 olympics, came first, was a whole other thing.

    holyfield could actually throw a power combination and stay on balance.. olympics, cruiserweight, early heavyweight, whatever, whenever. you must have seen that difference there when they fought?
     
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  6. slash

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    i don't think it would have been tucker.
     
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  7. SambaKing

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    You might be right. It could be any of the B level fighters. I do think he slips up on the way.
     
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  8. slash

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    of course. when you fight everybody. and you're an atg. let's see, an early loss for holyfield from tyson opponent.. not bruno. not tucker. not green. not spinks. holmes? no. not berbick. wait a minute, his first loss would have been bowe anyway.
     
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  9. superman1986

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    Honestly I could see him being a challenge in the way Alex Stewart was. And there's no shame in that. Remember, Thomas back then was looked at as the heir apparent to Larry Holmes. I think Holyfield would have beaten him, but I do think he'd make Holyfield work for his money.
     
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    Honestly, I think if someone did beat Holyfield during that period it would have been Spinks, Holmes or Douglas. Holy is the favorite but if he had a slip up during that period, I think those 3 would have been in the best position to take advantage of it.
     
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    Some think Tyson in his prime was better others say Holyfield. Both sides have valid arguments. I say that Holyfield beating Tyson in 1996 was a good win. At least the equivalent of Norton beating Ali.

    I also say that the best version of Holyfield to deal with a young Tyson would be the 1993 to 1996 Holyfield. By then he still had the physicality plus the seasoning and championship level experience. I think in the early 90s, Holyfield winning would depend on how he fought. At that time he liked to duke it out one reason I believe is because he wanted to prove he was a "real heavyweight" to the public. After all, we all on some level want to be accepted. And Holyfield wanted the public to accept him as a real heavyweight.

    Had they fought in 1990 or 91, Holyfield I think, would have threw caution to the wind and tried to prove himself as a "real heavyweight" by going toe to toe with Tyson, which I don't think would have ended well for him.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    LOL predictable. Now get back to yer mother s basement.
     
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  13. Wass1985

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    Your mother should have done you both a favour and drowned you at birth. Who are you to come to the western world and dish out insults.....
     
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  14. Wass1985

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    Busted.....
     
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  15. Fergy

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    LOL at least your on here regularly Wass, he only comes out of his cellar to scream at me lol.
     
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