Holyfield Moorer 1 is scored for Holyfield. What happens next?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Assuming Holy gets through moorer and the whole Heart thing doesnt happen. Whats next over the next few years?
     
  2. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    George isn't the oldest heavyweight champion in history, and at some point the Ruddock fight happens, better yet Ruddock and Bowe fight to challenge Holyfield, so maybe Bowe Holyfield 3 never happens, assuming Don King ****s off
     
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  3. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield fights Saturday someone like Ferguson after about 10 months. Beats him or another fighter of that level. Maybe one more of the same type of defense. The Bowe regains the title and perhaps Bowe fights Lewis. As stated by Marvelous Iron George doesn’t make history. Lewis probably beats Bowe the slowly the timeline goes back to normal. If Bowe doesn’t fight Lewis he slowly gets stripped of WBA-IBF titles then gets his balls smashed up by Golota. Golota then retires. Then everything as it happened except George and Moorer never get their place as 2 times and 1 time and oldest champion respectively. Know what I mean?
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Little known fact. The only reason Holy lost was because the judge made an error scoring the second round a draw when Holy dropped Moorer. If not for that, the fight goes down as a draw and Holy retains the title.
     
  5. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    When did this come to light? Why the hell didn’t Holyfield’s team, if not get result altered(no chance I know), get a no-contest result attempt. No press coverage that I can remember of this.
     
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  6. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    If I remember correctly they were lining up a defence v Lennox Lewis after Moorer.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a healthy Holyfield fights Bowe in 96 I think Holyfield wins the trilogy TBH.
     
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  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Holyfield fights Lewis for the undisputed champion. And we watch the spectacle. Long before 1999.
    P.S. and now I will fantasize. The winner of the fight Holyfield Vs. Lewis battles Riddick Bowe, and the 90s are nicknamed the "Golden HW Era"
     
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  9. mr. magoo

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    His health issues were why he temporarily retired after the first Moorer meeting. Therefore if he wins he likely still does the same
     
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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Well, logically.
    1996 is the year of Holyfield's big win over Mike Tyson, and the year of the double Bowe fight against Golota; fights where Bowe didn't win fights.
    Golota did lose, but Bowe did not win fights. No, if Bowe and Golota look each other in the eyes.

    Holyfield's prime was coming to an end, but he was still in his prime (Holyfield's prime ended with a win over Moorer 2). 1996 Bowe retired after two Golota disqualifications, and Lewis demolished Golota in the next fight.
     
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  11. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Holyfield would not have had "heart problems" if he had won the fight.
    The round in which Holyfield scored the knockdown was very one sided in favor of Moorer, very much in his favor, until that one punch. You could argue that scoring it 10-8 for Evander would have been unjust, and you could argue that the round was a 10-8 round for Moorer until that one punch landed.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    The issue is though that the judge scored the round 10-10 which is impossible with a knockdown. Whilst your theory of scoring the round 10-9 could be correct because Moorer was dominant outside of the knockdown, but the 10-10 scoring was a major error.
     
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  13. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I should have typed one more sentence...
    The thing is, it is not mandatory that a knockdown lead to a 10-8 round. It is customary but not mandatory. Moorer had dominated that round so thoroughly that you could make a very convincing argument for an even round.
    There was a similar situation in another fight- I want to say it was Fermin Chirino vs Mathew Hilton but I'm not sure- where one guy dominated a round thoroughly and got dropped at the bell. The commentators in that case argued that an even round would be the only fair score.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    Yeah I agree a knockdown in a round can be only 10-9 round if it was flash knockdown, or if the other fighter dominated the round outside of being knocked down. But I can't see how 10-10 is possible it's a major scoring error on the judges part, has anyone ever scored a 10-10 round with a knockdown ?
     
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  15. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If a fighter wins the round and scores a knockdown they should be awarded the round 10-8.

    If a fighter loses a round, but scores a knockdown, they should be awarded the round 10-9.
     
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