Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Vitali, Wilder, Wlad competition analysis

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  1. The Mongoose

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    Here's a good one: Samuel Peter. Watch out Tyson and Lewis, you got bossed by the Nigerian Ali! Who Nex!

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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    The Mongoose, Mar 11, 2014
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  2. The Mongoose

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    And way below Povetkin and Peter.
     
    The Mongoose, Mar 11, 2014
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  3. eltirado

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    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  4. The Mongoose

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    Doesn't matter, Povetkin did twice as much in 27 as they did in 31.

    Yep, Peter made 31-1, he surpasses Lewis and Tyson.
     
    The Mongoose, Mar 11, 2014
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  5. eltirado

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    We are kinda making that point here :roll:

    Peter lost more than once in 31 fights, so doesn't apply

    Povetkin under 31, follow the formula...contribute :roll:
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  6. eltirado

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    Post his record please :bbb
     
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  7. The Mongoose

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    NO, Peter did not. 31-1 heading into the Vitali fight, baby.
     
    The Mongoose, Mar 11, 2014
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  8. eltirado

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    Listed from best competition to worse by ratio of competition in the first 31 fights

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  9. The Mongoose

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    WRONG

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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  10. eltirado

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    Impressive win for Vitali then :good

    Post the record of competition please
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  11. The Mongoose

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    I have done so, twice.
     
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  12. eltirado

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    Listed from best competition to worse by ratio of competition in the first 31 fights

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  13. eltirado

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    Explaining the color distinction for Holyfield

    Holyfield competition rates at an extraordinary 5.4

    While Peter, Lewis, Tyson cluster tightly between 3.4-3.2

    Also a legendary feat for Tyson to be the only Undefeated fighter at that level of competition
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  14. eltirado

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    Just to make it clear, this is just one aspect of these fighters career, so the list reflects one thing only...level of competition at 31 fights, with less than one loss.

    If Povetkin is meant to be on this list he will have to go 4-0 in his next 4 fights...How good or bad he is...is irrelevant as we are doing a non subjective analysis with clear guidelines focused on success vs level of competition
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  15. eltirado

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    So far Valuev had the smallest quantity fights amongst his opponents, but the poor quantity almost always brings bad quality, as these guys were not 9-2 or 5-1 records...instead a mix of debuts, novice losing records, subs & some winning records :bbb
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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