Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Vitali, Wilder, Wlad competition analysis

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Listed from best competition to worse by ratio of competition in the first 31 fights

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopefully, because something must have made him cool off? June 2005!
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    This is very interesting and great info we need to keep this thread going. I need to so something like this to track Glass Jaws. :good
     
    Rico Spadafora, Mar 11, 2014
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have to restrict it to Punch resistance in championship fights, otherwise all the 0-6 all by KO loss records will dominate your list

    Someone started a list on that last weekend
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  5. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    What is the ratio for Ali Raymi (for 20 fights)? :)
     
    Stallion, Mar 11, 2014
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dunks started this thread almost what you are looking for

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=501149
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  7. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesn't qualify, he has to move to heavyweight & win at least 10 out of his next 11 fights :yep

    Anthony Joshua will be on top of this list, if he keeps the surge in quality of opposition :smoke
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  8. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The record of a fighters opponents means relatively little.
    When Junior Makabu Ko'd 20-0 Ruben Mino it meant nowhere near as much as when he beat 21-0 Dmytro Kucher.
    I'm using the Makabu example because it's a good one.
     
    Matt in a hat, Mar 11, 2014
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cool man, but in this thread we are discussing the 31st fight, 31-0 or 30-1

    Lots of 20-0 who never make it to 30-0, so we are discussing the smaller minority in heavyweight, if you know someone not on the list post his opposition record.

    We still have alot to go,on top of my head Tua
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  10. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know what you are discussing, but I am talking about record value.
    To base a fighters value on what their opponents records show on paper means little in reality.

    It's not like Sam Peter was really on better than Tyson after 31 bouts. No one will believe that. Numbers lie in this case. I'll stick with boxrec when I want to look at boxing through a numbers point of view.
     
    Matt in a hat, Mar 11, 2014
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sam Peter was brought up as a bad ass :thumbsup

    He gave best form Wlad a life and death war, after that 24 rds with Toney, lazier life and money flushed him down...Tyson career was over in Tokyo, the rest is just him being bigger than life (Bruce lee) type influence
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chris Byrd 30-1 (KO 19) :think
     
    eltirado, Mar 11, 2014
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1.8 Byrd
    1.4 Boswell
    1.1 Tye
     
    eltirado, Mar 12, 2014
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  14. eltirado

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    Listed from best competition to worse by ratio of competition in the first 31 fights

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    31-0 (KO 28 ) vs 428-150-18, 2.9-1 ratio - Bowe
    30-1 (KO 29 ) vs 597-212-19, 2.8-1 ratio - Vitali
    31-0 (KO 31 ) vs 428-196-19, 2.2-1 ratio - Wilder
    30-1 (KO 27 ) vs 592-295-25, 2.0-1 ratio - Wlad
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    eltirado, Mar 12, 2014
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  15. eltirado

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    David Tua 30-1 (KO 25 ) 367-187-16
     
    eltirado, Mar 12, 2014
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