Holyfield vs Haye?

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How does a fight between these two go?
    I think Holyfield wears Haye down in about 9 rounds.
    Too much heart and work rate.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye would do well in the early rounds, but Holyfield would just keep coming at him.

    Haye has stamina issues, and Holyfield would just take him into dee pwater and drown him.

    If only Haye could have had Holyfields mindset!
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's really weird he way this keeps cropping up...

    Holyfield would win, easily because: the best fighter Haye ever beat was Valuev, and that fight was pretty close. Which doesn't make sense, but is completely true.
     
  4. janitor

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    It keeps cropping up because Haye is arguably the second best cruiserweight, since the division was created.

    However there isn’t a gap between them, there is a gulf!
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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye fought at 200lbs at Cruiserweight and struggled to boil down to that. At 190 I think the likes of DeLeon, Miller and Norris may also of had his number.

    But like you suggest Holyfield is at least a couple of levels above Haye.

    I think the reason this pops up quite a bit is in a Heavyweight bout or indeed a fight at 200lbs, their styles might mesh to create a bit of fun. Also Holyfield had a tendency to sometimes fight at the level of his opponent, which may of made it even more spectacular!
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Holyfield was everything that Haye was not.

    Haye wanted to find a short cut to the top, that involved fighting as few world class opponents as possible.

    Holyfield actually wanted to be the best fighter in the division, and beat all the other claimants for that honour.

    Haye should look at Holyfields record and feel ashamed!
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To my knowledge, they have 2 mutual opponentsd, Ruiz and Valuev.

    Not that it matters, but an old Holyfield performed just as good, if not better than a prime David Haye.
     
  8. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evander walks through Haye no problem ko 2 rds
     
  9. TheCrazyCal

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  10. Entaowed

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    Holyfield at his PED infused best. Work rate, stamina, it is close in power, Haye will not hurt him nor be able to evade him enough. Elroy, I do not know how you can look at film of them prime OR compare records & who they actually beat & think edge to Haye, or it is close at their respective bests. You do not even have your usual bias towards era & size top cite here. Nor do you have a specific style advantage to favor either boxer-Holyfield sometimes suffered when he mixed it up with top power guys, usually swarmers, with a high workrate, & you admit Evander has the chin...

    I think you should CONSIDER CAREFULLY if you have an era & propping up (the sometimes too cynically viewed) Klitchko bias. The '90's were a much better & deeper time for the HWs than now.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've been reading some of your posts today and I think you need to....


    Never mind.

    We're still in the holiday season.


    Happy New year.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sounds about right.:good
     
  13. mcvey

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    I won't engage with the poster who describes Holyfield as a "feather fist". Suffice to say Mike Tyson named him as the heaviest puncher he met in last month's Ring magazine.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Pass.
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WHAT???

    Holy has no punch at HW???
    Why then did he knock down iron-chinned Bowe, Mercer, Vaughn Bean, Mike Tyson. For Mike it was 2nd KD in career, for Bowe, Mercer and Bean - 1st KD in career.

    Holy may not have Foreman's power but he surely has power to put Haye on his fuсking ass with one punch.

    Haye isn't better than Moorer, and Moorer's resume is in fact far better (Holyfield, Botha, Shulz, Cooper, Stewart, Smith, Bean, Jirov).

    Haye has speed and power, that's it. His skills are average, his chin is suspect. He lacks stamina and heart. He looked like shіt against Giant Russian and against Wlad, because he has no idea how to box against tall fighters.

    Haye's so called outside skills were shown against Carl Thompson and against Wlad, and even average light-punching Mormeck dropped him hard.

    Holy has big advantage in skills, timing, chin, heart, stamina, that's enough to KO Haye or make him run like a ***** and throw a fight away.