Holyfield vs Jim Jefferies

It's very hard to choose but I'll pick Holyfield by 13th round KO...

I generally feel like in most sports, fighters who were successful during Segregated eras would have have a great deal of difficulty facing modern opponents...

 

Holyfield would be the biggest man with any pretensions to class Jeffries faced.
Evander by clear decision.

 

I'd take Holyfield by 15 round decision. I might be inclined to take Jeffries over 25

I don't think it's because of any modern stuff, I simply think that Holyfield was the better boxer. He'd land counter punches to Jeffries and show superior ring generalship

 

Evander by early stoppage. Jeffries did nothing to prove to me that he could handle a skilled athlete like Holyfield. Not one of the opponents he defeated was remotely in his Holyfield's league as a H2H heavyweight, especially at the stage he met them .His attrition approach would make him a sitting duck for Vander's combos and would invite a brawling approach that would do him no favors. KO4.

 

What feats of athleticism does Holyfield have to compare to Jeffries?

And how does the relatively light-handed Holyfield stop Jeffries early, who was beat by Johnson savagely for 15 rounds, past his best? Or taking Fitzsimmons' and Choysnki's best punches?

 

What feats of athleticism does Jeffries have to compare? That he ran 100 yards in a time a high school girls regularly perform? Some tall tale of him carrying a grown bull 20 miles over one shoulder? I'll take the verified 10 repetition 360 pound bench press that Holy performed over any of that.

And I'll take Bowe and Lewis and Foreman to be heavier handed than Fitz or Choynski.

And so far as the lengthy beating he received from Johnson, let's remember that observers were almost unanimous that Johnson could have stopped him anytime he pleased.

 

Oooo, that's impressive for a long armed individual such as Holyfield, have any sources?

I never contended that Jeffries had the better resume, in fact if you look above your comment, you'll see that I picked Holy to win

That being said, Holyfield doesn't really have any proof of being able to knock out Jeffries in the early rounds

 

Oh and BTW men and women aren't hugely different in running sports, so a world class highschool runner who has perfect genetics for sprinting shouldn't be compared to a 220lbs man with a thick bone structure and thunder thighs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Jeffries

Wiki lists the feat as "just over 10 seconds" (which might beat the current world record of 10:49 in women's running)

This is also probably not on a track or with track shoes

 

Ughhh... Do we have to go thru this again?

10.49 is the female world record for the 100 meters. Jeffies 11 second time was over the shorter distance of 100 yards. It is equivalent roughly to a 12 second 100 meters. And if you want to start splitting hairs, all the females running today are FAT (full auto timed) not hand timed, so add another .2+ seconds to Jeffries time.

A real athlete like Jonah Lomu was 6-5, 265 and paced a 10.7 100 meters. Now THAT is impressive.

 

Hand timing could just as easily add time to a sprint. You also missed my point.

Still would love to see the video of Holy benching 360 x 10

 

Johnson did not open up on Jeffries until around the 8th rd ,I think the fight would have ended earlier had Jack gone to work sooner. Being able to do standing jumps and sprint quick ,[for his size,]does not equate into being the superior fighter.Joe Frazier was a complete bust when he competed in Superstars. Holyfield was light handed? He had enough pop to drop Bowe and Mercer ,big heavies.Holyfield was hitting on modern heavyweights,Jeffries on big light heavies,most of whom were past their best.
The 2nd Fitz fight would have been stopped in Fitz's favour today, Jeffries face was smashed to pulp and Fitz was coming out of retirement , nearly 40years old,with bad hands.
Choynski was 52lbs lighter than Jeffries.

 

Johnson was 6'0.25" and 208lbs for Jeffries.

 

That's not what experts in the sport say. I believe the internationally accepted conversion is .26 seconds.