Holyfield vs Jim Jefferies

I don't care if the fight would be stopped today, if anything that just proves how far gone boxing is. Choynski may have been 52lbs lighter but he hit like a truck.

Holyfield dropped but did he stop them? Holy did only have .51% KO ratio (66% Win to KO ratio)

I agree with the sentiments that Johnson could've stopped the fight sooner, and that boxers don't need a good press or 40yard to be good boxers by any means

 

TIm Hallmark...

https://www.si.com/vault/1989/07/24...o-mike-tyson-with-his-ko-of-adilson-rodrigues

 

No video? Only written proof? Golly gee mister, that sounds like the same situation Jeffries had that you blew off!

Though if that's true, Holyfield must've been on some good juice to go from 190x1 to 360x10 whilst in boxing training...

 

Hallmark said that Holyfield is 33% stronger than he was when he could bench press 190, that would mean he could do 255 or 285, depending on how he calculated it? I think something was lost in the translation between what Hallmark said and what the Sports Illustrated writer wrote. If Holyfield could bench 360 for 10 that would probably be around a 450-460 max? I'm sure Holyfield was a good athlete, but going from a one rep max of 190 to around 450 doesn't sound right. Maybe Hallmark meant Holyfield could squat 360 for 10, he didn't specifically say bench press 360 for 10?

 

It's fallacious to compare times ran on old vs modern tracks. But I'm sure you already know that.

 

Who that size did Jeffries ever drop? 167lbs Choynski went the 20 rounds distance with him to a draw. Holyfield was punching super heavies Jeffries old light heavyweights and Super middleweights! .

 

How does size effect your chin?

Ruhlin, Buskirk and Munroe were "true" heavies. Munroe had an 86% Win-to-KO ratio, and the only man he beat that went the distance with him was Tom Sharkey himself

 

Holyfield definitely wins by stoppage in my mind, Jeffries was the greatest for his time, but evander I think would outclass him every department, maybe equal on stamina and chin but that be it.

 

Id give Holyfield the edge in chin (more tested against harder punchers like Foreman, Mercer and Lewis), but Jeffries the edge in power and stamina (the man fought 25 rounds)

 

If you dont think your body mass affects your resistance to a punch then you are completely and totally ignorant about boxing.

Q.Would Choynski's best punch ko Terence Crawford?
Q Would Choynski's best punch ko Valuev?
This is what I said.
Holyfield would be the biggest man with any pretensions to class Jeffries faced.
Van Buskirk was a nobody a novice.
Ruhlin was 199lbs and he quit in his corner.
Munroe was a nobody who carried most of his weight in his arse!
Sharkey was washed up!
When he later fought Johnson,[who played with him] the papers comented he didn't even know how to throw a punch properly.
The fact that you have to mention Van Buskirk and Munroe indicates you are beat before you start!

 

Yeah he fought 25 rds with an185lbs man who was 5'8"and many felt the little guy deserved no worse than a draw!

 

You're right... those numbers can't be even close to reality. From a one rep max of 190 to 10x360 in the bench press? Not even remotely plausible!

 

Nikolai valuev has a granite chin, not fair


Would a punch from Choynski knock out Tommy Morrison?

Would a punch from Choynski knock out Marvin Hagler?


Tom Sharkey was not washed up. Tom Sharkey was a great contender with an iron chin and good aggression tactics

The men you mentioned weren't novices (except for Buskirk). Fights were not tracked well back then, many fights went under radar.

I mentioned them because they make the weight standard you had, whether they're of top contention (Ruhlin was) doesn't matter.


Please tell me how weight effects your brain's ability to continue to function after trauma

 

Don't they say the same thing about Deontay Wilder?

At least he didn't have to come off of a 6 year layoff...

 

I want more tales of a carrying a bull over one broad shoulder, while skipping and singing down the road.