Holyfield vs Marciano

Marciano by a 15 round decision in a gruelling fight.

 

Do you deliberately set out to make yourself look stupid?

It is widely known that Holyfield bulked up to fight, are you really suggesting that over 22 years fighting at Heavyweight someone wouldn't have asked how he kept losing weight then putting it back on again to fight, and checked to make sure it wasn't with artificial help?

Oh and by the way, Jimmy Wilde is rated higher than the 2 you keep on about on the ring all time punchers list. I don't see him knocking over too many guys who are naturally 14 lbs heavier than him. Especially if they were supposed to have granite chins, as you claim Marciano had.

 

The 23 years old 5'10-5'10.5" Marciano's pro debut weight was 192 lbs.
The 22 years old 6'2"-6'2.5" Holyfield's debut weight was 177.5 lbs.
This means Marciano was much more bigger guy than this lanky P.U.S.S.Y.
Holyfield. Holyfield wasn't bigger he was bulked.This is big difference.
And still some pathetic losers without boxing/sport knowledge can say
Tyson was intimidated by this lanky P.U.S.S.Y. Evander.
I don't know only one average Joe from the street who can respect a
similar skinny beanpole like the original and maybe natural chicken
Holyfield.

 

Fuking hell, stop press. Shock, horror. 22 year old guilty of gaining wait. Get it out to Rueters A.S.A.P.:shock::roll:

 

Please educate us with your top 20 heavyweights of all time list

 

Marciano would win. Holyfield is impressive, without a doubt, but 49-0 says to me that this is a man who does not know how to lose. Would Marciano have let Holy off the hook if he'd been in Bert Cooper's place? Hell, no. Marciano too awkward, too hard hitting, too hard chinned and too relentless for Holyfield. I believe that he would grind out the win over a gruelling affair, especially in the later rounds.

That said, Holyfield would likely take an 8 rounder on points, maybe also a 10 rounder. He could beat Rocky on cuts. But over 12 - 15 rounds? Forget it.

 

This guy VVMM has already named Holy a p.ussy and also claimed that he is much tougher than Lewis, that he was fighting at the street, etc.:huh

He also wrote that Frazier was weaker than average guy form street.:-(

He is seriously mentally ill

 

Claimed that he, personally, VVMM was tougher than Lewis?

:huh

Damn, there's always one out there ... atsch

 

Big difference between the pros and the amateurs.. As a boxing fanatic I'd figure you'd know that. Evander had 11 pro bouts and was fighting in a 15 rounder against a multiple time champion and won.. He destroyed him in the rematch. In Marciano's 12th pro fight he took on a 3-4 nobody.. To selectively pick out this bout and use it as a gauge implies doubts on your part, and the funny thing is, its actually a fight that holyfield should be commended for given the circumstances. Why not pick out Evander's fights with Bowe, Tyson, Foreman, Dokes or Douglas? As for him "juicing" well that may very well be the case.. But does that mean we should erase history and what the man accomplished and only credit him for his cruiserweight acheivements, forgetting that he ever had a heavyweight career? Or should we just assume that if he and Marciano met, that he'd be 188 lbs and that nothing changes on Rocky's end? What if Rocky had been born in 1970 rather than 1923 and to a different set of parents? Would he have been a prize fighter or would he have been an attorney or perhaps the owner of a construction company? Better yet, what if his opponents from 1950-1955 consisted of Rid**** Bowe, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Lennox and Michael Mooer rather than Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Don C, or Joe Louis?

 

Athletes have the tendency to build muscle and some men fill out between the ages of 22-27. Not something that I would expect to come as a shock to someone who frequents a boxing forum..

 

Yes, that he (VVMM) is much tougher than Lennox

I'd like him to say that to Lennox' face:deal