Holyfield vs Mayweather

and weakened with a CW, not a great win at all.. If May went up and fought him at his weight, a great win for sure

 

canelo chose to sign, he can't have thought it was that big a handicap. he wasn't some no leverage guy begging for a payday.

 

It was a single lb less than he weighed in his previous fight. A little longer on the bike in the sauna and suddenly a win isn’t worth anything lol. Alvarez had already had 40+ fights, was a world champion, and was in his athletic prime. He may have peaked later on at MW (I consider his zenith to be against Kirkland personally) but he was still in better condition then than he was when Bivol beat him where his legs were gone and he was fighting 5 weight classes above where he started yet Bivol seems to get more credit than Floyd for beating a worse version of Canelo. When Floyd fought him, Canelo had already beaten Baldomir, Trout, M. Hatton, Mosley, Joseito Lopez, Jose Cotto, and Cintron. Of course all of these men were past their best but they were all veterans and would have exposed more flaws in Canelo if he were as green as some claim he was against Floyd. The fact is that Floyd convincingly beat a future HOFer and P4P star at what I believe was his best weight.

 

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Canelo was very sharp and Mayweather was next level. Canelo hasn’t faced that kind of skillset since. The video doesn’t lie.

 

Everyone chose to sign against the cherry picker. You have to or you dont get paid. Thats the business of the sport when you have the Vegas Venue in your back pocket. As other posters have pointed out, You can tow the state of Texas through these 2 resumes, Mayweather has some fancy names but when you apply context and when he fought them, it fades very fast. He got his ass beat by JLC and had no answer for his strength yet gets pulled through. He is the best self-promotor in the history of the sport, but his career is smoke and mirrors to me.

Mayweather wasn't built for a Holyfield type resume.

 

canelo was getting paid regardless of fighting floyd.

 

Ya probably so

 

Couldn’t disagree more the thing people underestimate about Money is his Durability and heart.

 

what do you mean Durable? He wasnt a very active fighter. Look how Pac handled his career vs May ? they turned pro about the same time. right?
Durable with those brittle hands you say? low output, pot shot, with shoulder roll up against the ropes? ... Sure heart , but durability? If he was this incredibly durable fighter then he would not have been forced to cherry pick now would he? Like I said he was forced to FIGHT, and had 80 fights , no cherry picking , no rigged vegas venue , he dosent last long in earlier eras imo. And he takes many losses. JLC proved that already at 135. Duran beats the **** outta May and so does Arguello for example. Floyd never faced an ATG in his Prime. He had the chance to achieve that against a smaller man in 2010, but he passed on it. JLC beat him up. And ATGS like Duran, Arguello, etc. are 2 levels above a JLC type fighter. But we already both know that May doesnt take those fights either. There is noNow its put into perspective for you..

or maybe you still strongly disagree

 

that fella made a fair point.

boxing wise floyd is top tier atg.

 

Did he ever get stopped? Did he ever go down multiple times in a fight? And let’s get this straightened out now when he had a bad outing it was a rematch immediately and he won. Let me add them bad hands beat his rival easily dropping mic.

 

Deal.

 

If he was this incredibly Durable fighter then he wouldn't have been forced to cherry pick now would he? Why wasnt he as active as Pac taking on all comers then? Please you have been duped.

heart yes, gym rat yes, IQ yes, Durable not as much

 

I think we splitting hairs.

 

ya we see it a bit different, all good