Holyfield vs. Mercer - Chin

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who's was better?

    What are the hardest shots each fighter took?

    Anyone else feel Mercer flat out quit against Briggs? He was getting rabbit punched all night, and towards the end wasn't even hit. He then proceeded to hit the deck Liston style and put on a pretty horrible acting show.

    I know Holyfield was legitmately hurt more than once. Was Mercer, outside of having a rib broken against Holyfield?

    I know Bert Cooper damn near knocked Holyfield out, where as Mercer fought a far better version of Cooper and ate shots that literally lifted off his god damned feet.
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    Mercer had the better chin. Holyfield was super durable but his chin gets a little over rated sometimes. He was wobbled and dropped on numerous occassions and should rank just below Mercer, McCall, Chuvalo on chin.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    On a P4P basis, would he say he has a better chin?

    Have to consider where he moved up from.
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rate Mercer a slightly better "chin", but stood too erect.

    Holy move his head better, or better hand defense, so
    some of the blows were deflected or softened.

    IMO.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where does Mercer rate all time at heavy, chin wise?

    Who's above him?
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I don't think Mercer was ever floored in his prime during the early 90's. Lewis couldn't even wobble him in 96. Holyfield was stunned and floored by Cooper and Bowe in his prime.
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    P4P, Holyfields chin is probably on par with Mercers.
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mercer had the better chin, even in 02 when he fought a offensive prime Wlad, he still took some serious shots before having the fight waved off. There was times during that fight where Mercer would shake his head at Wlad after taking a straight right full blast to the face, him and Sam Peter took Wlad's punches the best.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both had incredible chins, with Mercer having a truly elite chin.

    Holyfield may have been dropped and hurt a few times, but his chin is proven beyond doubt. Look at the punchers he fought (all of whom hit him solidly at least a couple of times) and look too at the way he could absorb a beating. Considering the wars he fought, anyone with anything other than a really good chin would not survive.

    Mercer was a piece of iron in his heyday. The shots he shrugged off from Morrison were huge and it was almost comical the way he stoicly took them without changing expression, and despite his shortcomings in other areas, Morrison could bloody well hit.
     
  10. Rebel-INS

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    Mercer had the better chin, but remember Holyfield moved up from cruiser.
    P4P they're fairly equal I'd say.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    It's been a few years since i saw it, but indeed i remember thinking he quit (despite not doing bad), due to constant rabbit punching and no warning from the referee. It shouldn't count against his chin, which was an all time great one.
     
  12. Holmes' Jab

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    Mercer. His chin was utter granite.
     
  13. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's funny, considering the huge bombs Mercer took without flinching from so many, that Holyfield was able to discombobulate him with one short left.

    Holyfield bowled Bowe over in much the same way of course...I think the Holyfield short left is an underrated weapon.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Any thoughts on the Wladimir fight?
     
  15. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mercers is close to lamotta in my opinion. holyfield had a very good chin but it cannot be considered in the concrete league of hagler and jake