Holyfield was prime alot longer than people think

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The match was perhaps the most brutal of the trilogy with each man knocking the other down. By round 5, Holyfield, who was suffering from Hepatitis A appeared to be completely exhausted.

    Only mistake i made was that it was Heptitis A and not B.
     
  2. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I googled it and just saw more things about Henry Akiwanda.

    I already know body punching was the reason Holyfield ran out of gas. Maybe he had something Other health issue but the body punching is what dramatically affected Holyfield. If you don’t want to give Bowe credit there is nothing I can do to convince you.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

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    Well i don't know what your searching it's clearly readily available online to see Holyfield had Hepatitis A, it also mentions it in the Holyfield/Bowe documentary which you can see online.
     
  4. Big Red

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    In a quick google search I did not see it. I am not doing a lot research into a excuses. Last I heard it was a heart problem and Holyfield claimed he prayed and it went away, from my memory. But to me it just looked like hard body punching was Holyfields main problem ok?
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riddick_Bowe_vs._Evander_Holyfield_III
    https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...o-the-final-chapter-bowe-holyfield-iii/163275

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    20:40 into video about Holyfield's Hepatitis he got it from eating sea food.
     
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  6. ikrasevic

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    Maybe I'm going to make a fool of myself, because I'm not that knowledgeable about boxing; i'm more of a fan. Holyfield gained some experience and quality in the trilogy with Bowe; fighting a "modern superheavyweight". So, due to that experience and quality of his prime, he was extended until the Moorer 2 fight. If it wasn't for that experience and quality, IMO he wouldn't have done as well in the fights with Lewis (although I think he lost both fights). If this is true, then:
    IMO peak Holyfield is the Bowe 2 fight
     
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  7. Big Red

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    Ok I see him claiming he had hepatitis. I thought I heard him say it was a heart problem but that was a long time ago. The way I look at it is excuses are normal every fighter has an excuse for a loss. Show me a fight where a boxer does not have an excuse for a loss.

    In the fight Bowe hammered Holyfields body do you think maybe that had a big effect? Because I know it did. I don’t know about excuses if you don’t have the energy to go to 3 rounds I think a trained athlete would know.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    The fact is he had Hepatitis and was gassed after only a few rounds, obviously that is not the norm for Holyfield who is one of the most well conditioned athletes.

    Holyfield went 24 rounds with a better version of Bowe, so I would say your theory is not likely.
     
  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield's physical prime probably extended a little longer than most might think. He did have health issues somewhere in between his peak and his slide down the other side of the hill, which confuses the matter, as well.

    I'd agree that his peak came against Bowe II and then his form went up and down, after that. But he demonstrated the willpower to get up for the big fights and his matches with Tyson showed tremendous form. I'd say Lewis II was the last good version of Holyfield we saw, before he really fell off the cliff.
     
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  10. Big Red

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    Holyfield did go 24 rounds with a better version of Bowe. But Bowe hit him with better body shots in the 3rd fight. In the 2nd round he hit him him with a good body shot and Holyfield stoped using movement it took his legs away, Holyfield was using good movement before that point. And In the 3rd round he hit him with many hard body shots. And continued the rest of the fight. Bowe said he knew he hurt him to the body, I remember that.