Holyfield was steroid cheat?

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk is undeafted at HW and has accumulated four belts in three fights. That's a pretty damn good resume. In fact it's unique.
     
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  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those were 90s. Usyk would be most likely force to juice in one or the other form as well.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Imagine how unbeatable an Usyk on testosterone, Glukor, human growth hormone (HGH) and god knows what else would look? He would literally be superhuman and be impossible to beat

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  4. BCS8

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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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  6. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He dodged an important question
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is that this argument does not defend Holyfield, it invalidates the 90s. If you are seriously saying that all top heavies int he 90s did PEDs, then maybe the best guy in the 90s was really Sam Schaff or Jesse Ferguson, because they were the exceptions that didn't.

    Throw the entire second golden age of heavyweight boxing out.

    I for one don't believe it. I never watched the shape of Lennox Lewis' head change like I did Holyfield's.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean the police know that he was trafficking, but when did he admit it? I forgot that part.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    Police know that he was trafficking in HGH. He never failed a test, nor was he charged. But it was obvious that he was doing HGH based on the fact that he was receiving HGH under the name of "Even Fields."
     
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  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just assumed every HW in the 90s was on something.
     
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  11. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield just got bold, I didn't notice any dramatic changes in the shape of his head. His body has changed, yes, but so did Lewis' one when he put additional 20 lbs of muscels. Compare Lewis' back early in his career when he was full grown (25-27 years old) man to his back in his early 30s - the amount of muscles there went up dramatically just like in Holyfield case.

    I'm 100% sure that Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Andrew Golota and almost all (proably all) top heavyweights of 90s took anabolic steriods but never got caught because doping testing was ridiculously bad that days. I mean, even Holyfield, Morrison and Bruno never were caught using steroids officially - they never failed doping test in his career.
     
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  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    100%, and it would be very naive to think otherwise
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To me the size of his head very clearly changed. I noticed it before I knew that HGH does that, so you will never talk me out of that.

    Again, you just invalided the entire 90s. It isn't that Holyfield is just as great as the rest because they all did it, it would be that none of them were great because the best guys were probably underneath guys who didn't do it.
     
  14. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Remember, Holyfield created the world In 1 hour In the eyes of most people on this forum.
     
  15. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holy obviously did roids. His body changed significantly when he moved to HW.