Holyfield will always be better than Lewis and Wlad

the mercer who fought lewis, or the one who got schooled by a fat, beer drinking holmes?

 

The beating he dished out to an older Mercer was brutal. But imho I don't see "prime" Mercer as being that much better. Maybe a bit faster, harder hitting ... don't think it would have made too much difference. Klitschko was the wrong style and also just too big for Mercer.

Damiani handed out a boxing lesson to "prime" Mercer prior to Ray's hail mary punch, and I didn't see the "prime" version as doing so much different from the older one. Better gas tank, maybe.

 

Man, we have a bunch of boxrec warriors here reading stats instead of actually watching the fights.

Holyfield p4p CLEARLY ranks higher than both Lewis and Wlad. I don't even know why it's up for debate.

 

p4p yes, holyfield is higher. but once youre a heavyweight youre in big man terrority. h2h he has a 40/60 chance against wlad. and everytime he loses to lewis.

 

P4P is not what the OP was on about. Holyfield would have to be very highly rated P4P because he was usually a smaller man fighting bigger men. We are talking straight resume and H2H. And in that case, he doesn't do so well, sorry.

 

Resume wise he ranks higher than them too. Wlad's resume isn't very good for a top 10 ATG HW, and Lewis's resume is a lot of smoke and mirrors.

h2h is a different story. Holyfield's absolute prime was in the late 80's and early 90's. That Holyfield was a monster and an athletic freak with Godly recovery. He either washes the floor with Wlad, or loses a close UD, depends on the location. Lewis is a different story. 50/50 fight, slightly edging Lewis.

 

Holyfield's legacy is unfortunately tainted since "Evan Fields" fought some of his fights, if you know what I mean.

He goes down with Jones, Toney, Vargas and others as having a big question mark over is head as to how good he would have been without the steroids/HGH.

And that is just how it is.

 

Don't post about things you know nothing about. This is what you said about Bowe/Povetkin.

This shows you don't know anything about either fighter. Bowe was known to come on stronger as the rounds went on.
Against Holyfield , all his best work was in the late rounds , like the 11th where Holy was battered off his feet.

Povetkin on the other hand looks like a beetroot with his mouth hanging open after the 6th round.

If you think the Mercer that Wlad beat was no different than the prime one who was obliterating everybody in front of him , that makes you nothing more than a Wlad fangirl.

If Mercer landed a 'hail mary' to win the Damiani fight , well so did Povetkin against Tackam.atsch

 

Holyfield from late 80's early 90's is a 50/50 fight with Lennox Lewis?
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Holyfield got beaten to a pulp by Bowe. LL knocked out Bowe in the Olympics. Late 80's or early 90's Lewis beats Holyfield up also.
Holyfield doesn't have the power to knock out Lewis.
He's not a better boxer than him neither.
I've no idea how you envisage that as a close fight.

 

All irrelevant topics by a boxrec warrior. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Lewis got brutally and hilariously KO'd by Oliver McCall. The same McCall that arguably lost and got outboxed by an ancient Larry Holmes in his next fight. :nut

A prime Holyfield doesn't have the power to knock out Lewis(who doesn't have the best set of whiskers) but Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman did? :nut
The question should be reworded to Lewis doesn't have the power to knock Holyfield out. Not even a past prime, war torn, Holyfield with known heart problems and stress over paying millions for child support.

I've no idea why you pick a green Lewis without Steward to beat a prime Holyfield. That's just absurd. :nut

 

The common theme on boxing message boards, is that because you get hit alot your a "warrior".

Holyfield is too small for Lewis or Wlad. Just like Ali.

 

Holyfield was rather unfortunate to come up against a Prime and hungry Rid**** Bowe. I think the first 2 fights beat the greatness out of both fighters. They just weren't the same after those bouts. Evander being a natural cruiser weight, was mentally the strongest to ever fight at heavyweight. He wasn't scared of any body.

 

Holyfield is not greater than Lewis. Wlad and Holy rate around the same. Wlad may even be higher in some rankings.

 

Rid**** Bowe is overrated. Andrew Golota proved that. Rid**** beat Holy and who else?

 

Holyfield didn't beat the true Mike Tyson. He beat a fraud who lost all of his skill from being in prison. Holyfields resume is second to none, but he could be outboxed and beaten by bigger men who used a good jab. Still Holy was a great fighter.