Holyfields performance last night should be a benchmark in boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rakesh, Sep 12, 2021.

  1. Rakesh

    Rakesh Member Full Member

    Jul 6, 2021
    These old guys need to stay in their retirement homes, I wasn't even the slightest surprised seeing what happened, it was sad to see such a legend get crumbled and railed at 60 years old.

    Anderson Silvas KO was cool though.
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

    Jul 22, 2004
    I would like to say it will stop this farcical shyte from appearing on our screens - sadly and despite last night I can see it continuing to rise.
  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    Foreman vs Holmes can still happen ! ( within the next 5 years i hope )
  4. Rakesh

    Rakesh Member Full Member

    Jul 6, 2021
    Honestly if they did a skit type of thing (an extreme exhibition lol) id be down as that would be funny as ****
  5. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Unfortunately, he will say he was a victim of the Britshest of British Stoppages and he will climb back in the ring.
  6. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Member Full Member

    Apr 9, 2019
    Just udder garbage, very sad to see, you could hit Holyfield with a crowbar at his beat and he wouldn’t have went down…very sad….that being said watching Tito get slept was awesome
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  7. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Member Full Member

    Apr 9, 2019
    Read a book called “the fall guys” by Marcus griffin, it’s a great book on professional wrestling in the 1920s, boxing is at that state now.
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  8. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @excelsioroptimum Full Member

    Apr 30, 2017

    Tony’s experience with Evander from the 6.20 mark tells you everything
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    It is quickly getting there. I agree.
  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 24, 2004
    WWE is more exciting and entertaining than boxing. Wrestling, the TV kind, has always been a lot more fun to watch
    than boxing. For one thing, it's humorous and not so serious. For another, those big, muscular, ass kicking women wrestlers
    KO any ring card girls. Even the Tecate girls.
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    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

    Feb 22, 2020
    It is definitely becoming a circus.
    Old pros making 'comebacks' for a quick buck, MMA fellas getting involved, lack of big boxing match-ups etc.
    It just seems too diluted, which is a worry in my opinion. Too many belts, and too many inactive boxers isn't helping either.
    A quick look at the boards on this site speaks volumes.....many threads can be merged, many are being repeated. The true boxing fan is bored.
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  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    Didn't had read up this.
    Actually Olympic and tournament type wrestling is more competitive thing than pro boxing: it is tournament format and you fight with everyone they gave you till end of tournament. You can't cherry pick anyone.

    Clinch fight and close fight in boxing is partially lost art, this yeah.

    While predictable outcome fights I think in modern times are more done with matchmaking:( etc like stuff and they are enough skilled there not to have any need for anything illegal to get desired outcome.
    Specialists with decades long pro experience might research potential opponents resumes and all their fights in depth and be excellent advisors to help here.
    Then there are clauses and hometown fights to add to this.:D

    Yeah, it turns more like close to pro wrestling or circus wrestling.

    If fanbases did not had mentality like : bum or with 0 and champ, approach might be different.
    Then we have fans calling fighters with maybe 20-2 record as exposed hype jobs and crying about prospects with 20-0 records who had fought bums and mismatched opponents.

    Pro boxing industry is like all service and entertainment industry: they will deliver what is in demand.
    Demand is to see undefeated? Okey, they will deliver.
    In elite level restaurant if you had ordered vine, they will not gave you whiskey.
    The same is with pro boxing. It is service, entertainment industry.
    Ppl get what they are ready to pay for.
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  13. Drago

    Drago Member Full Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    The next fight for December, the ULTIMATE SIZE/WEIGHT fight:

    Nicolay Valuev
    7ft (213cm) / 145-151 kg / 320-232 lb / 22.8-23.8 Stone

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    Hongman Choi
    7ft2 (218cm) / 160-166 kg / 352-367 lb / 25.3-26.2 Stone

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    Bring it on!
  14. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

    May 23, 2021
    Watching old fights alleviates some of the pain but my tolerance towards these clown fights is thinning exponentially.

    My biggest gripe is with the bad scorecards, the frequency with which they're coming out is alarming .
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  15. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 21, 2015
    It has always been that way to some extent, from the barnstorming days early on to Jack Johnson fighting a robot or Ali fighting the little asian dude.

    I think the bigger problem is that there are serious matches to be made, they just aren't happening. Covid explains some of it, but there isn't enough money for promoters to keep guys active. Instead, they overpay them to fight twice every 18 months and keep them in the stable. Not a bad deal for the fighters, either, but it's awful for the sport.
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