Honest P4P list.

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  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Usyk - Never beaten with one close fight vs Briedis on his resume, everything else has been dominant. He fought everyone away from home and always won. He has A+ level wins in Hunter, Brieids, Gassiev and AJ + a very good win vs an undefeated Glowacki.

    2. Lomachenko - I still believe he is number 2, he will easily dispatch Lopez in the rematch, however he had more of an argument for winning that fight than Canelo did in either Golovkin bout.

    3. Josh Taylor - Undisputed, no controversy on his record and some very very good wins. Wonderful boxer, I still feel he has some things to work on but his skillset is brilliant.

    4. Nayone Inoue - Fantastic boxer who I dont see getting beat anytime soon, the power he carries at such a low weight is unprecedented. Still lacks some good wins to lift him higher.

    5. Terence Crawford - He is unbelievably skilled but hes been so inactive that he might have declined a fair bit, for now I have him number 5 but hes wasted his talent thus far. He is at the age where decline will be very swift especially at a lower weight class.

    6. Gennady Golovkin - Still undefeated, however there is a real argument to be made that he lost the Derevyachenko fight, if not for the KD he would have. Has some great wins... 2X Canelo, Jacobs, Derevyachenko? and Brook.

    7. Canelo Alvarez - What he did after the 2 defeats to Golovkin is very impressive but he will always have the blemishes on his record. His win vs Smith, Kovalev and Saunders were all good wins. Why I havent got him higher? He lost to his 2 best opponents in GGG and Mayweather, he also lost to Lara. He fought an old drunk Kovalev who was in a very tough fight 2 months earlier but it's still a solid win.

    8. Errol Spence Jr - Was undecided between putting him or Canelo at number 7 but I believe Canelo edges it. He's a great boxer, can keep it long and is very very good on the inside. Good wins vs Porter, Brook and the two Garcias.

    9. Chocolatito - Back on the P4P lists!! His last performance was excellent and he beat Estrada convincingly, 2 blemishes on his record but the way he bounced back at this age is incredible.

    10. Mairis Briedis - Could be on the 8th - 9th spot. Fantastic boxer who gave Usyk his toughest fight and has great wins over Dorticos, Huck, Glowacki on his record. He has no weaknesses but sadly he is aging rather quickly.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Imagine ranking GGG higher than Canelo in 2021. Your list is comical. A Heavyweight #1 and Loma #2 lol.
     
  3. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    GGG shouldn’t be on any p4p list anymore , but yes he did beat Clen twice, well second could have been a draw, but first was clear.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he never beat Canelo, but even if you want to believe he did, that was 3/4 years ago, we're in 2021 now and Canelo's clearly much improved and has become more dominant since he fought and beat GGG and GGG has declined since then and is seen as very old and past his prime now.
     
  5. JSpizz

    JSpizz Jay Spizz. Full Member

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    1)Usyk
    2)Canelo
    3)Inoue
    4)Crawford
    5)Taylor

    I would not have had Usyk top untill yesterday. For me P4P relies on recent activity and the ability to preform in different weight classes.
     
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll have GGG higher than Canelo untill Golovkin retires.
     
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  7. Rakesh

    Rakesh Active Member Full Member

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    I bet my life this guy despises Canelo :lol:
     
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  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Richard Duke of York Full Member

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    Very good list, happy to see you've included the very deserving Briedis. I would have Canelo higher but otherwise my list is similar.

    I think Crawford is talented enough to be in the top 2 or 3, but his despicable old promoter hasn't given him the matchups he needs and so 5 is about right.
     
  9. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He was past prime when Clen fought and lost to him. Now he is shot . He is old .
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still haven't gotten over the rematch huh?
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can tell you're having a tough time accepting what Canelo did to GGG. But what happened there has nothing to do with who is better now, between Canelo and GGG, and more importantly who's better P4P now, Canelo or Usyk. I don't have to make the argument that Canelo is higher P4P than Usyk. That's just reality. Check the official rankings between and now the Plant fight, you'll see. Canelo will remain #1 P4P between now and the Plant fight on all the official lists and I doubt Usyk will be close to #2. It's rare to see a Heavyweight ranked high up on the P4P rankings. But Usyk is very good, even great for a Heavyweight. But not great in the sense that he's some gifted physical specimen. He's just really really awkward, tough as nails and clever as a puncher. But not a great all around fighter in a P4P sense. Nowhere near as skilled defensively as Canelo or really any of the guys in the Top 10 P4P. Tough to beat though, like I said his best defense is his offense, and at Heavyweight even as an undersized Heavyweight that can go a long way because Heavyweights aren't known for their high level of skill or work rate. A hard worker, above-average awkward technical puncher like Usyk can go far vs today's Heavyweights.
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile Clean Your Room! Full Member

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    He hasn't fought this year. Is he retired?
     
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  13. Liquorice

    Liquorice Oppressed vest Full Member

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    The consensus pound for pound list thing is hugely flawed.. Half of them are weight bullies masquerading as multi weighers with the aid of clever doping regimes.. people like Crawford walk around at 180 yet are campaigning as light welterweights.. Lopez is built almost like Canelo yet the guy is a ****ing lightweight .. Usyk , Taylor & Inoue are probably #1, 2 & 3., Canelo lost three times to men in their mid 30s and is massively enhanced with jungle juice… Loma is still right up there too but he's plagued with injury these days and he's getting old now for a featherweight
     
  14. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    semi retired . Just fighting easy fights and collecting checks
     
  15. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don’t need to accept anything , you need to accept that Clen lost to GGG twice and over 70% of boxing fans agree with me, he is also a drug cheat and very protected fighter who lost a few fights , but got decisions because boxing is a corrupt sport.
    Clen should never be ranked in Top 3 p4p. His wins are too shady and he is a drug cheat.
    He fought old and shot Kovalev , but will not go anywhere near beterbiev anytime soon.
     
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