Honest P4P list.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FastSmith7, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. m.s.

    m.s. Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 2, 2010
    The Clen was something probably used to cover up what he is really taking.
  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 22, 2011

    This is the worse pfp list that I have ever laid eyes on.
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  3. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich Member Full Member

    Aug 15, 2020
    I don't think you should rank people based on what you think they will do. I think what they've already done is more important. This is why I don't like the high ranking of Loma basing it off that he will beat Lopez. I agree that he probably will but since he hasn't done it yet we shouldn't be rewarding him for a fantasy victory.
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  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT President Pacquiao KO1 Biden Full Member

    Sep 26, 2021
    You can’t just ignore the fact that he lost to Teo and that he no longer has any belts
  5. makzy

    makzy Member Full Member

    Mar 10, 2014
    P4P the worst list in existence, YDKSAB.
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  6. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    I can, look. Looking at that fight, Loma was in first gear for the first half of it because he listens to everything his dad tells him and does it, it worked up until that point in his career but they simply had the wrong gameplan for Teo. When Loma decided it was time to stop with the bull****, he went up a few gears and dominated the later half of the fight.

    His dad banked on Teo gassing out completely but Teo fought smart and conserved a lot of energy so once Loma saw that he probably lost 5 rounds, he stepped up and dropped 1 round in the later half of the fight.
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  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 21, 2010
    Any p4p lost that doesn’t have Canelo #1 is bias and not to be taken seriously, saying that you triple groupies need to give it a rest ya boy lost and will be quickly forgotten while Canelo going down as a legend
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  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT President Pacquiao KO1 Biden Full Member

    Sep 26, 2021
    Loma lost clearly no matter how much mental gymnastics you do
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    I like the man and think he made some good points, but I was wondering where Lopez was too.
  10. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 18, 2006
    Top 5.
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    The first line is absolutely fantastic lol

    Shadow genuinely believes it too, that's what's scary
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    What a freakin idiotic thing to say. This is confirmation of your delusion... go buy some anti-psychotics meds, you need them
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    For his whole career, fans have been complaining that Crawford hasn't fought the fighters that he should have fought (Spence, Thurman, etc). He wasn't allowed to fight the best because the best fighters in his weight class weren't under the Top Rank banner and his promoter Bob Arum wouldn't make those fights.

    Do you understand how that's being protected? Crawford was being protected his whole career by only being allowed to fight a limited level of opposition. OK now Canelo on the other hand never had that problem, his whole career he's fought the best possible opponents. Even when his promoter advised him not to fight Floyd Mayweather for example, Canelo fought him anyway.

    So he's the most un-protected fighter in the sport in that sense. In that he fought, for the most part, the best opponents he could fight and the fights that the fans wanted to see. (Lara, GGG, etc) Now, you can make the argument that he didn't fight Bivol or Beterbiev yet, but compared to a fighter like Crawford he hasn't been "protected" from making those kind of fights. Just the fact that he fought on Showtime / PBC to fight Plant, shows how unprotected he is in the sense that he's not tied to a specific network or to a specific list of fighters who fight for the same promoter.

    So that's what I mean by Canelo not being protected by his promoter like Crawford was. Now I know what you and others mean by protected. You're talking about conspiracies about the judges, rehydration clauses in some of his fights, and believing that he gets A-side advantages. So we're talking about two different things. You're version of what protected means vs what protected really means in terms of in terms of the level of opposition that he's taken on, unlike somebody like Crawford who hasn't taken on the best because he's been protected due to his promoter. Comprende?
  14. MrPook

    MrPook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    1. Canelo
    2. Crawford
    3. Usyk
    4. Fury
    5. Lopez
    6. Inoue
    7. Lomachenko
    8. Spence
    9. Taylor
    10. Beterbiev
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    Any current p4p list has to have Canelo, Usyk and Crawford as the top 3.

    They can be in any order you want but they have to be in the top 3 otherwise your list is comical.