Honest scoring of Fury v Usyk after rewatch

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  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are some here who also swore, day after day, week after week that Fury would never fight Usyk. 'Too scared'. 'Won't turn up'. 'He'll pull out.' blah, blah, blah...

    Haters gotta hate.
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Half of them still think he won't show up for the rematch. False Usyk fans praying for a third AJ fight...
     
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  3. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Lewis clearly won the fight, Lewis landed 348 to Holyfield's 130, how the hell did that fight get scored a draw?

    I'm not saying judges are always correct. Normally if the punches landed are close and the judges scores are close, it normally indicates it's a close fight with a few swing rounds.

    Fury vs Usyk was a really close contest, the judges scored it that way and the punch stats reflect that with Fury landing 157 to Usyk's 160. I've watched the fight a third time and scored it a draw, I gave Tyson 7 rounds and Usyk 6 with a 10 - 8 round to Usyk. An Usyk victory by a point I think is fine but I didn't see it that way.

    I'm not just basing my judgement just on the punch stats, I thought fury controlled the fight 2/3 of the time, fighting on the back foot, slipping punches and showing great ring general ship.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mate punchstats are not accurate I don't know why you're so fixated with punchstats it's just a guy pushing a button.
     
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  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    The usual suspects still **** talking.

    You’ve got him pegged.

    KC (no sunshine band) has been caught cold yet again for intellectual dishonesty and a raging hypocrisy.

    His rejection of his being absolutely exposed (instead falsely claiming a personal development curve - huge LOL) is THE most severe case of denial in this thread.

    Re the Ruiz vs Miller fight, he also said that he was happy that the “cheater” got “cheated”.

    They often travel as a pair, playing tag team, but there is a third who often chimes in also.

    “Get over it”, “Move on”, “End of story” and “You’re taking it too seriously” are among their oft repeated, choice primary school retorts when they have nothing to say to actually defend their positions otherwise.

    Post to one of them and the other one posts back to you instead. Very protective of one another - LOL.

    Perhaps the pair should streamline themselves and just post as one - “Like A Kiwi” - they both repeat the exact same rubbish, contradict themselves and then childishly deflect like there’s no tomorrow.

    The profile on them is well and truly IN - sad little guys that they are.

    Watch them rinse repeat their pitiful MO and tandem posting over and over again.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yawn.
     
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  7. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    It might not be 100% accurate, very accurate is a better way to describe it, in terms of punches landed by each opponent.

    Compubox stats is an indicator, not necessarily the defining factor on how the fight is perceived. It certainly paints a picture of how the fight went.

    Would it be fair to say that Compubox painted a better picture than the judges regarding how the fight was perceived in Lewis vs Holyfield 1?
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They say I'm fixated on Fury/Ngannou knockdown but again when have I ever spoken about it apart from in this thread ? If I was fixated on it surely I'd talk about it all the time right ?

    I don't get emotionally involved in boxers and I don't care enough about Heavyweight division. The only Heavyweights i really like are Zhang and Usyk but I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of either although I respect Usyk's achievement.

    But yeah you've seen for yourself the hypocrisy in this thread and then Kiwi tried to backtrack when he was caught out. Basically he will only talk about corruption or unfair refereeing when it suits him. But in regards to Fury who he's a fan of he will put the blinders on and ignore any errors from the referee or the controversy of the decision and just say "well it was the official decision" basically a cop out answer and biased because it suits his agenda because he's a fan of Fury.

    As for "I like boss" he just likes to try and wind people up and then he's pitiful attempt and trying to be funny spamming the judges scorecards saying "get over it". Just showed what an absolutely fool he is hence why I put that individual on ignore because I was literally losing braincells reading elementary like posts.

    And to top off I get accused of not being a real boxing fan you can't make it up. Imagine saying a comment like that and then in another sentence defending a supposed World Heavyweight Champion getting floored by an MMA fighter and I'm not the real boxing fan ? What because I'm not impressed by Fury getting up from a knockdown vs a novice ? Absolutely laughable.
     
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  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You claim to have blocked my posts but clearly I will continue to live rent free in your tiny little brain for ever more.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe landed over 100 more punches than Holyfield in their 2nd fight according to punchstats but still boxing fans will agree Holyfield probably deserved to edge it.

    Fury only landed like 10 more punches than Wilder in their 1st fight according to punchstats but yet most consider that a robbery.

    Spinks out landed Holmes in their 2nd fight according to punchstats yet most consider that a robbery.

    Punchstats I guess can be used somewhat as a gauge but they're not entirely accurate. For example one boxer can be consistently out landing the other fighter by a few punches in each round. But then the other boxer has a few big rounds when he has a big edge in punches landed and then the overall stats can be skewed.

    Overall Fury vs Usyk was competitive fight I've never denied that but I don't realistically see how you can't have Usyk winning the fight. I looked at your scorecard and every somewhat debatable round you didn't give any to Usyk rounds 1, 7, and you scored 11th round even. And for me Usyk atleast won 2 of those rounds so to not have him winning any of those rounds is a bit baffling to me hence why your scorecard is not accurate for me.
     
  11. humbug

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    "Punchstats I guess can be used somewhat as a gauge but they're not entirely accurate."

    You speak like punch stats are an obsolete factor in determining what transpired in the contest. It's 100% absolutely used as a gauge, by trainers, the fighters, betting companies, judges, fans.

    "Overall Fury vs Usyk was competitive fight I've never denied that but I don't realistically see how you can't have Usyk winning the fight. I looked at your scorecard and every somewhat debatable round you didn't give any to Usyk rounds 1, 7, and you scored 11th round even. And for me Usyk atleast won 2 of those rounds so to not have him winning any of those rounds is a bit baffling to me hence why your scorecard is not accurate for me."

    Fair enough, how did you score the fight?
     
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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Not me.

    I long believed Bowe deserved the win.

    (Which is neither here nor there, as it really has nothing to do with the greater discussion you're involved with).
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was 157 to 179, but Usyk landed almost 30 more power punches, got the KD, and it was distributed so that Uysk outlanded him in a majority of rounds. It was a tough fight, but not close.
     
  14. NewChallenger

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    i just looked at it as the ref allowing Usyk to try to finish, because he could have called the KD earlier, its just Usyk couldnt do it.

    and people act like because Usyk did this, its not like Wilder didnt do this to Fury before and it was way worse
     
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  15. humbug

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    157 to 170 my mistake
     
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