Honest scoring of Fury v Usyk after rewatch

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah sweep it under the carpet as I said whatever makes you feel better.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No according to the rules my guy correct me if I'm wrong but if a clean punch lands and the opponent goes to the floor that's a knockdown ? Yes ? If the referee missed it that's on him but according to the rules Ngannou knocked down Fury twice.
     
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  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As if reading something written on a forum is going to change the way I feel. Some people take forums way, way too seriously.

    If you were really a boxing fan you would appreciate a guy getting up from being knocked down and going on to win. Perhaps if his name wasn't Fury, you actually might?
     
  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The referee has the final say. Are you suggesting he didn't see the knockdown?
     
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  5. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is only a knockdown if the referee deems it to be a knockdown. End of story.
     
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  6. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Have you seen the compubox figures? Have you seen the official scorecards?

    115-112 Usyk
    114-113 Fury
    114-113 Usyk

    My God. One judge gave Fury 7 rounds, another gave Fury 6 rounds. Fury was ahead on punches landed going into the 10th round. It was a razor thin fight with several swing rounds. Your perspective seems to be 'to hell with the judges scorecards and to hell with the compubox stats, I know better'. You clearly have a disposition that's clouding your judgement.

    Normally I wouldn't be barking up a tree like this but when lots of fans say things like Fury won 3 - 4 rounds max (I'm not saying you in particular) they're clearly brain dead and need correcting.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But, it shouldn't have been, though.
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Never mind DP.

    It’s an obvious case of hiding behind an official call (or lack thereof) as and when it suits certain posters - the pair in question often work in pitiful tandem also.

    Deadset, they are like Mack And Myer For Hire. :lol::lol::lol:

    If they want to lock themselves into such stupidity and if they are consistent, then they must not have opined previously against any official rulings nor will they do so going forward.

    I very much doubt that has been or will be the case for them in the future. It’s just something that suits them for this discussion.

    The depth of their arguments are always very shallow.

    Take a deeper dive and then they immediately begin to baulk and go off subject.

    You asked point blank to be corrected IF you were wrong as to what constitutes a KD -

    Of course your point wasn’t addressed - rather, you were falsely accused of taking it too seriously (lol, they dust that lame old misdirection off a lot) and you were questioned as to whether you’re a real boxing fan.

    Wow - so you’re accused of being too serious but also of not a boxing fan at the same time? So they want to have their cake and eat it too?

    They’ve also implied you being biased against Fury - when you’ve indicated nothing of the sort.

    It’s simply pure avoidance and puerile deflection on their part - as often has been their MO.

    Also, never mind that in the case of 2 KDs suffered by Fury, he was afforded a whopping 23 seconds respite from the time he hit the deck until the fights in question (one being vs Ngannou) were waved back on -

    Finally Fury was also blatantly saved by the ref from a 9th round stoppage vs Usyk - the ref impeding Usyk TWICE during his onslaught and also being so good as to assist Fury part way back to his corner after the fact.

    I mean, it’s also up to the ref as to who he chooses to illegally help out and who he doesn’t help. Ref’s call, no correspondence entered into.

    Ignorance is bliss.

    ‘Nuff said, right? :lol:
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But a close fight that Usyk said was his toughest doesn't suit their narrative.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not taking anything seriously I just find it laughable you're hyping up Fury getting up from knockdowns from the likes of an MMA fighter and Pajkic who has a grand total of 4 stoppages.

    So I'm not a real boxing fan because I'm not gassing up Fury for getting up from a knockdown from the likes of an MMA fighter ? got you makes perfect sense.

    I think it's more of a "you" issue my guy if you find Fury getting up from a knockdown from an MMA fighter as a positive.
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And as i said before you want to sweep it under the carpet because you like Tyson Fury and it doesn't fit with your narrative.

    It was technically a knockdown the referee missed it end of.
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If your using compubox as your argument then you're fighting a losing battle.

    Usyk out landed Fury in 8 out of the 12 rounds in power punches landed, and in overall punches landed Usyk landed at a 41 percent connect rate compared to 31 percent for Fury.

    So what that tells us is Usyk was landing the more significant punches at a significantly higher percentage.

    Yes one judge somehow gave Fury 7 rounds which was ludicrous bad scorecards happens all the time in boxing.

    My issue with your original post is you suggested Fury could've won the first 7 rounds which is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous than your suggestion that Fury winning 3 or 4 rounds at max is ridiculous.

    Overall i think Fury vs Usyk was a competitive fight but it was a competitive fight with a clear winner, i think realistically Fury won no more than 4 or 5 rounds with 6 being a stretch and 7 not being possible without extreme bias.
     
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  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A knockdown isn't a knockdown unless the referee rules it is. That's a fact.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a pity your hero Tyson Fury won't admit it was a tough fight suggesting it was "too easy" like a total clown.

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    Atleast Usyk has some dignity.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As i said keep sweeping it under the carpet whatever makes you sleep better at night this my last reply i got better things to do with my time than to reply to Tyson Fury fans.
     
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