Honestly: Is Pavlik done?

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It appears like he doesn't have the discipline to make 160 anymore, and the fighters at 168 seem like they're just too good.

    Is his career as a top fighter over?
     
  2. Brimstone

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    I would say he is done yes.
     
  3. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Honestly, I don't know.
     
  4. Honestly..... probably. I think he can beat a couple of the guys in the super 6 (Abraham and Green), he could conceivably move to 175 and get some good wins there... Will those things actually happen? Who knows.. It is my opinion that he should get a new trainer and place to train though.
     
  5. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Honestly, I'm in agreement with much of what you said.
     
  6. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sorry to say but yes i think he is im affraid. For me the only notable person he beats at SMW is Green, if you can call him notable. The rest of the super 6, as well as Bute, all beat him. Shame really, i didnt mind him
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    I think he should fight @ 168 instead of @ 175 like I'm hearing reports about.

    He can still make some noise and do well against the more stationary type fighters. Quicker guys who can box, move and use the ring (Ward, Dawson, Dirrell, Bute) will probably beat him.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's done in the sense that he wont be ruiling a division anymore. He can be a player at 168, but the problem is he's one dimensional as hell, and at 168 he gives up the size and power edge that he had at 160. He's lucky that most the top guys are tied up in the tourney, but he has virtually no shot in hell at beating Bute. Lucian will knock him out after completely outboxing him.

    My guess is they match him with Andrade first. Or hell who knows... maybe a third fight with Taylor.
     
  9. Vano-Irons

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    Please say it aint so!!!

    I agree tho, Andrade seems a logical fight at the min, rather than Bute
     
  10. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik is at that awkward moment; where, he's too good to be taken as an easy fight, but you get no credit for beating him. For this reason, it's going to be hard getting him fights with top other top guys.

    Pavlik needs to get a new team around him, win a few decent fights and show the public he has something new to offer. Short of that I don't see him getting many opportunities.
     
  11. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes, in every sense.

    Pavlik made up for his lack of skills, footwork and slow hand-speed, by cutting to 160 to be far bigger and stronger than anyone else.

    At 168-175 he's just another guy, and those other fighters are more skilled and powerful. He is done.
     
  12. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    first he needs to get rid of that boxing coach he got at the local ymca if he wants anyone to take him seriously.
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Did he announce his retirement? I could have sworn the announcement was about moving up, but hey, maybe I missed something.

    Why not just move to 168 where nearly all the top guys built their reputations on beating his left overs?
     
  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think there's a very real chance Pavlik has seen his best days. And I'm a fan.
     
  15. KOTF

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    He would beat Allan Green