Honestly, whats the blueprint to beat Tyson Fury

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  1. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    A la Mike Tyson. The honor of the name comes full circle
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If you can find one other instance in boxing history of an inactive drug-ravaged suicidal muscle atrophied 40% shell of a fighter who hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years climbing off the canvas in the 12th round after being sparked out cold by the hardest right hand the hardest puncher in history has ever thrown, then please feel free to post it.
     
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  3. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Rather over the top and lacking any objectiveness. You clearly love Fury and that's fine but it gets in the way of having a proper discussion free of bull**** and agenda.

    Wilder has never KO'd a genuine iron-jawed fighter. Yes the dude clearly can punch, and it's ATG power for sure. But the hardest ever? I'm not convinced. I happen to think Wlad is a bigger puncher - he's got the combination of heavy handedness and whipping power whereas Wilder just has the whipping power. That's why Julian Jackson was such a great puncher - he had both too. It's a relatively rare combination.

    The key to beating a dude like Tyson, who has very good recuperative power as well as a decent chin, is COMBINATIONS at the short to mid range. I think Joshua has a decent shot, though it really is a 50-50 fight. If Fury gets on his bike he will probably win a dreadful 12 round decision. If he comes at Joshua like he did with Wilder it will get very interesting.

    He's not gonna do that though. He'd be stupid to when by far the best chance is for him to get on his bike and keep AJ at arms length. That version of Fury is very dificult to beat but I'd heavily favour Lennox Lewis to do it, for me the best H2H heavyweight in history. Lewis had it all, mostly. Yes his chin was not rock solid but Fury is not a monster puncher despite the Wilder TKO. He's big enough, has the power and ring IQ and can adjust in the ring mid-fight, He'd give Fury fits IMO.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Deontay has boxed 143 rounds in his career. That's absolutely nothing.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I respectfully albeit vehemently disagree with everything you wrote there. Like literally every word of it. In fact, I don't think it would be an exaggeration on my part to say that I disagree with it down to the letter. But you're entitled to your opinion and I'd like to take this opportunity to wish you and your loved ones a blessed day.
     
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  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Everything? Yeah ok man.. All the best to you.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    To be fair, I can kind of see where you're coming from regarding Wlad being a bigger puncher but I'm afraid if I concede to that then it will undermine my entire argument and I'm not prepared to do that at this current time.
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Do you guys know how much damage happens to hands of people ending fights that early? You look at the rounds only instead of the fights and the physical resources it takes to finish those fights with those guys? Wow, that's unsophisticated as echee double hocketsticks.

    Fury has eased himself through so many fights slapping and cuffing dudes over the distance without applying his body's full force through his knuckles and wrists and elbows with all that shock. Trust me. I used to punch for a living too and when you put all the mustard on that sandwich and spread it around like a boss, it's a different amount of punishment than dotting a few bites with it from a squeeze bottle where you're often just watching a bunch of that disgusting mustard water drizzle out before the apoptizing and viscous delishis souce comes out. Anyways, maybe ur right but I wanna see Fury put away guys now like Victor Ortiz and no BS where he's on the back foot fighting with slappy checkhooks and rear hand uppercuts that push and those weird shovel hooks where there no torque. The guy fights like Vitali FFS.
     
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  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I love me some tyson fury but he is clearly beatable. He nearly was ko'd by a guy who barely knows how to box and almost had his face torn off by a swedish journeyman.
     
  10. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I love how much this is forgotten now. :lol: He was given no shot at all by the vast majority.

    He shook up the world, he became victorious, and now the same unbelievers who utterly dismissed, rubbished and outright pilloried his chances want to take it away from him. :lol:


    So not Tysonesque, then, since Tyson's MO was to clinch when he got inside and wait for the official to reset him. Mike was a mid-range bomber, not an infighter. The bold more aptly described Joe Frazier (although one may feel a bigger version might be needed). Mike's policy was to use his educated feet and slipping skills to get himself into the medium ground and let combinations rip from whatever angles he could create in that range.
     
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  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Tysonesque in terms of power, speed and explosiveness. Cutting off the ring and trapping Fury, then working him hard on the inside.
     
  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    It's very simple to beat Tyson Fury

    You have to nail him to the canvas

    and not be born from your mother

    Sorry but Fury literally 2 levels above the rest of the current crop of heavyweights. He will retire undefeated, then comeback Ali Holmes style and beat the next generations champion.

    Let Whyte struggle with Chisora and AJ struggle with little fat mexicans.

    & give Fury his rightful undisputed status

    Because if you want to dispute Fury as the best HW of this era right now then you're on crack.
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The blueprint is to be John McDermott or Steve Cunningham and have the year be 2009 or 2013 respectively.
     
  14. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Usyk will not beat fury, no way. After about 4 rounds fury will adapt to whatever Usyk is doing and beat him up.

    AJ is probably the only man capable of doing it, but how? He can come in heavy to match furys strength but he might gas, furys cardio is excellent.

    Or come in lighter as with Ruiz, he won’t be out boxing fury and he will be significantly weaker and chinny. Fury can punch.

    AJ has the best shot and I think it’s going after fury from round 1 attempting to take him out.

    whyte will get the chisora treatment.

    ruiz is finished

    wilder if 3 goes ahead loses again unless he lands a bingo shot which I feel heavier fury can take
     
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  15. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    lol wlad LOST to a limited AND 38 year old sanders. Vitali LOST to a nearly 38 Lennox who was clearly soft.

    why does the age excuse only exist for the Klitschkos?
     
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