Honouring Bernard Hopkins

The size of the task for Dawson is massive because you can draw some parallels to what Victor Ortiz achieved when he beat Andre Berto. He showed up with a mentality we'd never seen before. A steely determination. But Dawson not only has to do that, he also has to do it against a far, far better opponent, a smarter opponent that can adapt even if he does show up improved mentally, one that can sap your confidence.

The problem for Dawson is Hopkins can beat him like Pascal did, or he can possibly beat him with the new aggressive style he's been promising. Quite a bad situation.

 

Dawson is quickly becoming the most overrated fighter of all time.

He was badly shown up and well beaten by Pascal, a man with some gaping flaws that a textbook boxer (as Sad Chad is often billed) ought to be able to exploit.

Instead he was a confused mess, losing most of the rounds before finally coming to life in the later rounds, when he was too far behind anyway.

 

He was crap before that as well. Just isn't very good, too many flaws.

 

My stance on Hopkins is that there is no style which is bad for him, not technically, because he's basically mastered boxing from a scientific perspective, mastered it to the degree that he can change the pace of the fight no matter what gameplan the opposition is bringing, but there is something that has always been his kryptonite, and it's nothing to do with styles, it's an attribute, it's speed. Dawson is no Hector Camacho but at these weights he's moving a bit fast and letting his hands go. I don't think there's going to be a problem with him mentally, I think he'll go in there and be able to scrap out his decision. There's no doubt he will walk into traps and will find himself out of position but I think as long as he mans up mentally and turns up the heat he will be able to win on points.

That said, what I would love to see is Hopkins using his jab because it is no ****ing joke when he uses it to control pace, I hope he lets the punches go in bunches and uses his unreal footwork to offset Dawson. Hopkins is a lot better than Dawson at boxing and I want to see him show it by befuddling Dawson in a positional sense. Fighters are not idiots, they throw the shots if they are there to be thrown, and that's why fighters have very little output against Bernard. His defence is not like a Pernells (the mirage defence), his defence is all in his style from top to bottom, the punches aren't there to be thrown because he's mastered the art of putting himself in position to throw whilst having you out of position to throw. This will never leave him, it's not an attribute, and if he is able to do this to Dawson like he did early against Calzaghe then he may win the fight. Here's to hoping. Hopkins is king, Bernard Hopking.

WHAT!

 

Great post Scouse :thumbsup

 

Bhop butts, holds and cheats his way to a UD

 

Well I disagree on your call on what I got wrong, because Taylor was faster than Hopkins, and utilised that speed without a high workrate, he simply beat him to the jab with that fast jab time and again, as I say, it is speed that is his problem and always has been. It's not speed in any particular facet as in 'handspeed' or 'footspeed', it's just speed, I've been onto it for donkeys years.

 

thanks mate

 

It's not like I think Dawson is a massive favourite, as I said in my post above I think Hopkins can win if he does what I said I reckon he should do, but yeah I expect Dawson to win if I'm pushed to favour someone. I'm all for getting it wrong though, I'm a MASSIVE Hopkins fan

 

"People need to look at Bernard Hopkins last fight for what it was technically..? it was a poor fight from both guys, only Teddy Atlas seems to be on to this.

Its like tennis, some matches are exciting but technically they are ****. Full of mistakes, unforced error's etc. From a technical point of view, Bernard Hopkins in his last fight did not impress me at all.

Everyone esle is caught up in the age factor, which means ****. You don't get no handicaps in boxing at all, the fact the matter is. If Bernard Hopkins was 36 years of age, nobody would be talking about him. Because technically he's doing nothing special inside of the ring, and i totally disagree that Bernard Hopkins has master every style of boxing. He cannot and has never EVER been able to cope with physical skilled fighters who have ring IQ's above average. Its the reason why Jermaine Taylor beat him twice, its the reason why Joe Calzaghe reduced him to moaning and acting, its the reason why a shot to **** Roy Jones made Bernard Hopkins look average, had him maoning and acting yet again.................

Right guys i've picked my Winner Chad Dawson, via 12 Split Decision or 8th round TKO.

Bernard Hopkins is a solid fighter, who can spoil and can survive inside of the ring. But he's not fast enough, his workrate is not high enough, i don't think he has the physical skills or technical skills to take a fighter like Chad Dawson apart.

Nobody is confidant here in Bernard Hopkins, you have the people making the ready made excuses. And then you have the people who cannot really go abit deeper into why they have picked Hopkins.

 

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I watched this last night .Good song as well .

 

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"Right i have changed my mind again, because i agree with everything Hopkins says in this video"............

I'm not neutral again, i will continue to keep chopping and changing my mind right up until the weigh in.

"I will make my official announcement, minutes after the weigh in"

I'm 60-40 leaning towards Chad Dawson at the moment, but i need a majority vote psychologically to pick the winner for sure.

This thread should be the official Hopkins vs Dawson thread.

**** with all this honouring ****, that was the past! That was then, and this is now!!!

"There's a very important up and coming fight"

Note: Chad Dawson had a bad night during his last fight, and still won 90% of the rounds.