Hooks! Does the thumbs turn over

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  1. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    Does the thumb turn over on the hook I've heard many ways which is the best way to do it? Some say not to turn over the thumb because the radius And the ulna overlap is there anything to this theory which is the best way a. thumbs up b. thumbs centered c. thumbs down?
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Absolutely but you'll hear bs otherwise.
     
  3. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heres a clue, car broken down youre the passenger, youre pushing the car on the back top of the boot. Whats the position of the hands and why.
     
  4. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    It's supposed to, But I feel - and I know - that I generate more power when it's facing the sky.

    Besides, that's where - for me - it feels the most comfortable.
     
  5. BoxinScienceUSA

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    different hooks for different purposes ...

    medium hook at 90 degrees - elbow up and palm down; basic medium distance and beginner hook

    long hook at 120 degree - elbow is high, palm is facing away from you and the index/middle knuckles facing down (a long hook for coming around a reaching defensive catching hand)

    short (inside) hook at 45 degrees- elbow is down, palm is facing you (muscles are stronger when extremities are closer to axis [example: which is easier, holding a twenty pound dumbbell straight up or straight out?], not to mention higher velocity [example: like a figure skater spinning with arms across body vs arms stretched out])


    even then with the medium and short hooks the thumb is always safer when it's up and the palm is facing you (use this for mma, self defense or pro matches). amateurs will get called for "slapping" if they do that. that's why most trainers over the past twenty-five years teach elbow up and palm down.

    practice both; your hand is safer, and you can switch when the ref cautions you about it.
     
  6. tai chi

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    The punch speeds up!?
     
  7. BoxinScienceUSA

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    when pushing a car you're using as many joints as possible so the elbow is extended. this is a great ****ogy for a straight punch (I think I'll actually steal it from you. thanks!), but not applicable for a hook because the elbow is locked at less than 180 degrees and rotates around a joint, whether that's a shoulder or a hip.
     
  8. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with Brixton.

    First let me tell you that boxing is a ****ing stupid sport and getting your brains beat in is not worth it. You're young now, but that won't last forever. It's not worth it.
    But if you're going to box, you need to do it right.

    Thumbs up.
     
  9. Brixton Bomber

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    :good

    I find that whichever angle/position that you feel comfortable in and get the most power out of is the one to use... ALL of the time.

    Try changing that and your mental game can go to pot.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    People fail to understand and execute the technique properly which leads to frustration, so in an attempt to make gains in speed and power they begin to cheat. These cheats usually lead to things like the thumb going up, the elbow dropping, the arc becoming bigger, a decrease in accuracy and generally the hook becoming wilder.