Hopkin never lost!!

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  1. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Through 2 rounds: Jones 15 of 99, Hopkins 10 of 85
    Through 8 rounds: Jones 123 of 390, Hopkins 82 of 418
    Through 11 rounds: Jones 186 of 541, Hopkins 128 of 594
    Final Total Punches: Jones 206 ( Hopkins 153) of 594 ( 670)
    Jones threw 11% less and landed 25% more... Talented Jones won on accuracy and handspeed, quick jumping in with a very unorthodox style. Hopkins very solid fundamentally. Jones ( 21-0, 20 KOs before) said that Hopkins is a very tough guy and he got hit with some good shots. He also said that he was not satisfied and that he would stay at 160 and then go 4 James Toney.
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Nobody was ever succesful to beat the OLD MAN convingcingly . . . so far. :deal

    He's gonna make you miss . . . move away . . . throw 2 punches . . . then hold or clinch. That's what he is good at. Throw about 10 to 15 punches per round and then cry he was robbed. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    But hey . . . Pavlik??? I'm not discounting Pavlik landing one solid punch that can rock the old guy and put him down in the canvas. The posibility is always there. :yep
     
  3. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually thought that one was very close. Could've went either way.
     
  4. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    nobody can say his loss to roy was close
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor vs Hopkins I: Taylor 86 of 453, Hopkins 96 of 326
    Taylor vs Hopkins II: Taylor 124 of 391, Hopkins 136 of 371; Powerpunches: Taylor 60 of 182 (33%), Hopkins 101 of 240 (42%)
    Therefore you can very well say Taylor won very much based on that left jab!

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  6. jamel

    jamel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Calzaghe winning clearly and i'm not even a fan of Joe. It was by no means a good performance from Calzaghe but Hopkins style makes people look bad. I hope Pavlik knocks his ass out so he will retire.
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Bingo. HBO's influence and Hopkins' unpopularity with the boxing establishment caused those two bogus decisions!:yep
     
  8. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe its good for a fighter to forget in his mind he ever loss. Staying positive. You know, if a fighter lets a loss linger in his mind too much, it might scar him. Maybe that is what Hopkins is doing, not only staying healthy physically like he does, but also staying healthy mentally. Now, when fans start denying losses....that's another thing.
     
  9. Moneyman

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    At this point I just can't see Hopkins beating Pavlik. In his prime he does it no problem but he just is not active enough now and Kelly should be able to wear him down with the jab and striaght rights untill Hopkins is either stopped or the fight is stopped.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have him 1 - 1 with Taylor, to me he won the first fight easily and got outworked in the rematch. JC could have gone either way but give it to JC for the stalling tactics Nard used.
     
  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah I think Bernard might get stopped by Pav at this point, and it's sad. In his prime he would have tore that ass up.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In other words, he might've lost both fights based on how boxing is scored on a round by round basis but if you look at this fight from an overall perspective from rounds 1-12, Hopkins clearly won. He controlled the pace, exhibited superior ring generalship, showed great defense, was incredibly accurate with his power shots, and just outboxed Taylor in both fights.
     
  13. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins clearly lost to RJJ, but he gave Roy a tough fight.
    He also probably lost his first pro fight, against Clinton Mitchell (checked it on boxrec, never saw that fight).
     
  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I will say that he should be 1-1 against Taylor but as far as Joe and Jones both were losses ..The Calzaghe fight was a razor thin decision but still a loss.
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    JC beat him IMO, but I can see how you could score it for Hops.
    I had him beating Taylor twice by close decision, but the judges didn't see it that way so he lost. That's just the way it is. Deal with it.
    Jones beat him. Close, but clear decision. No controversy there at all.