Hopkins 0-5 vs. the best natural 160 -175-pound fighters he meet.

You mean the Pavlik who'd never fought at 175? Or the blown up Tito? Those are his master classes? You should see me against my little brother then, you'd be impressed. And other than Marquez name one fighter who's as big of a crybaby after losing...

 

Not only he faked being hit to the back of the head but he himself hit Jones in the back of the head. He's dirty, arrogant, delusional, shameless mutt.

 

Moron, Vitali was winning against Byrd but had to stop because of a shoulder injury. He was also leading on all three scorecards against Lewis when the doctor wouldn't let him continue even though he wanted to. And Fury is nowhere near the best fighter Wlad faced and even then he didn't get beat up, he just didn't let go enough. You're obviously an idiot though so feel free to continue trolling.

 

Trinidad demolished William Joppy a capable middleweight in his previous fight and was viewed as the heir apparent to the division.
Pavlik was also the favorite and easily carried the weight he was just outclassed.
Julio Cesar Chavez was a bad loser. How about Zab Judah.

 

Marco Antonio Barrera for all his greatness was bad loser as well.

 

Pavlik proved better than Taylor and I think Hopkins actually edged Taylor both times. Beating Calzaghe wouldn't have been a better win than beating Trinidad at middle. Jones is Jones and Kovalev was when Hopkins was near 50.

 

I feel kind of sorry for Bernard. He got schooled by Calzaghe. Then he pretends he's a big investor in Golden Boy, when we all know he only has a token interest like Shane had. Then he got launched out of the ring by a construction worker from Long Island. But he's given us some good fights and he's goofy and good for some laughs in an interview. He's kind of an institution at this point.

 

Pavlik bashed Taylor twice and he's bigger than BHop so the weight would have been to his advantage, it was 170 not 175

 

Calzaghe NEVER beat Hopkins he got a gift dec plus got put on his ass lol

 

Yeah Vitali quit with the same rotator cuff injury that Pac went 12 rounds against Mayweather with. lol Big Hero huh

 

My point was simple, "not all members that dislike B-Hop are racists" my point didn't discount anything specific you were claiming, it simply claimed, "not all members that dislike B-Hop are racists"

but that was a little too difficult for you to deal with,,, you took that as some type of threat against what you were saying for some reason,, wonder why that was?????

you replied to me that I must be ******ed if I didn't think B-Hop was a first ballot HOFer, lol, which I never said and dont agree with, smh, way to just make stuff up about me from your agenda. I wonder how often you do this to members other than me??????

If you dont care about that then cool, just dont keep replying to me. How hard is that concept for you?

If you do care, then start paying more attention. That way you wont go through life making so many blind assumptions about others that you dont care about or have a clue about.

 

Hops is very overrated, but those losses came when he was old, aside from Roy. He was at his youngest vs Jermaine, 39 already and gave a young fast heavyweight good fights, some think he won. Jermaine wasn't anything special at all though. His biggest wins being smaller guys is unquestionable. Tarver is his best win against someone bigger or the same size as him, and we know Tarver was drained for that fight, although he did utterly dominate Tarver.

 

That was one of those strange sorts of decisions you see in boxing. Zaggers landed more, but his punches had no effect, Hopkins landed less but moved Joe. I could see different judges give it to Hopkins tbh, but going by punches landed Calzaghe won.

 

i don't take issue with the rest of your post but that part is ridiculous. after New Orleans, Duran came back to give Hagler all he wanted, beat up Davey Moore and took Iran Barkley's middleweight belt. not to mention he never quit again despite being over-matched several times. that was one of the poorest choices for comparison you could have made.

 

Hopkins was actually inside CW when he turned pro.
I think Hopkins may have been struggling at MW when he lost to Taylor and think that those results with Taylor were debateable.
I wonder if Hopkins had a style weakness with fast 2 handed fighters his own size.
Pavlik was also coming up 2 weights but Tarver was a decent win and I think the Holmes win was decent also