Hopkins an all time great?

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  1. glimmerman

    glimmerman Member Full Member

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    Ok im not bitching about b hop or slagging him down so dont look at my picture and get the wrong idea. Hes actually 1 of my favourite boxers and a modern day great, 1 of the longest raining champs of all time, but i dont honestly think he can be classed as an all time great! he lost his first fight at LH, moved down to middle, He cleared up a pretty average middle wieght apart from a couple of good wins ( johnson, echols, joppy) His biggest wins came against blown up fighters, de la hoya, tito, winky. i love the boxing lesson he gave tarver and pavlik but id never put them in his class. when he has met class fighters he has lost, RJJ, Calzaghe. 2 losses to taylor who has gone on to show he isnt that good! im not picking whols in his career because i rate him very highly and he has had an awsome career im just putting my reasons forward for why i wouldnt class him as an ATG, let me know your opinion cheers!
     
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  2. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    Hopkins had some lackluster performance but only for the Tarver and Pavlik fight, he deserve to be on the ATG list. He will be remembered as one of the great, even with his safety first attitude.
     
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  3. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who is this boxer he supposedly lost to around his 20th fight please enlighten me?? Roy jones was the only person who beat him around that time idiot
     
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  4. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    does calzaghe make your ATG list because how you answer that will help me gauge your criteria (or agenda if thats the case)
     
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  5. glimmerman

    glimmerman Member Full Member

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    No need for the idiot pal! i dont know the fighters name but look it up the fight did happen! and no i rate hopkins career better than calzaghes
     
    glimmerman, Jan 21, 2009
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  6. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Undoubtedly. Close thread.
     
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  7. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    OOPS.

    :patsch
     
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  8. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The still formidable B-Hop is without question an all time great.
     
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  9. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    are you referring to the draw with mercado??
    as far as i know his losses were jones calzaghe and taylor x2 (and pro debut)
     
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  10. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    No question about it. Top 5 MW, above average resume, and skill-level to compete with anyone
     
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  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if you think statistically for 100 years there should be something like 10 fighters per decade who are top 100 ATG worthy .... so if you go back in 10 years and try to chose 10 fighters who should be in top 100 then you may consider Hopkins as a strong case.
     
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  12. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins is obviously an all-time great

    has been the underdog in big fights - tarver, pavlik and trinidad

    Fought other ATG's in De La Hoya, RJJ and Calzaghe

    Not to mention his many defences of the title and his other achievements
     
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  13. glscotland

    glscotland ****ing Legend Full Member

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    Yes
     
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  14. glimmerman

    glimmerman Member Full Member

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    Looking at it that way i guess he would yeh! cheers mate
     
    glimmerman, Jan 21, 2009
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  15. glimmerman

    glimmerman Member Full Member

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    Think your rite mate ill hold my hands up to that one! what a dick i am, thought he lost that one
     
    glimmerman, Jan 21, 2009
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