Hopkins and an even tougher fighter

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    B-Hop was born in North Philly, it's a **** area. He spent his teenage years in Germantown. Germantown is better than North Philly but it's not upper middle class.
     
  2. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i've also been to prison but labelling someone a criminal who has come out of the system and made something of themselves isn't wise.

    i don't think hopkins is prejudice, i think he says this **** to motivate himself.

    calling him "nothing as a person" is ignorance.

    i dont care really what you think about him but if you cant see what he's pulled himself up from then it really is ignorance.
     
  3. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    How can anybody say that Hopkins is a racist when many of his closest friends are not even Black?
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    People don't seem to care about who your friends are, or what you do for people. They seem to just react to words.
     
  5. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I had to look it up, because you surely know philly better than I do. However, germantown has a median income higher than average..that makes it upper middle. The level of education is higher than average..again upper middle.

    But again, you know this all I am sure. So the fact is Bhop lived his "criminal" years in a middle to upper middle class neighborhood.

    Im from Akron Ohio, its a shithole of a city. I guess Im one of those terrible inner city youths you so speak of.
     
  6. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can't label someone generally like that and you know it.

    roll a dice and try to see how your mates turn out...

    there are too many variables to do that.
     
  7. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Just to recap
    1) you went to prison but your not a criminal
    2) hopkins makes racial slurs but isnt prejudice, he belittles a race for motivation: Ill try that as a white guy and see what happens
    3) hopkins lived in a better area than i did growing up and still turned to crime..

    All great points, you sir must have been a learned inmate, but are certainly not a criminal.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I want you to come to Germantown and tell me it's upper middle class. Furthermore, it's not too far from North Philly. He wouldn't have been too far from from his old friends there. Regardless, none of this is all that relevant anyway.
     
  9. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Hopkins has paid his dues already. Get over it. He changed, he matured.

    And Hopkins, from what I read, is a genuinely good guy.

    He's something as a person - He's himself, and it bothers some people, for whatever reason.
     
  10. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I am not labeling him..seems everyone else thinks nard was raised in an inner city, rough, ghetto area. I submit to you that he didnt. that in fact he lived in an area likely nicer than any place i did growing up and likely you as well.'

    The fact that he turned to crime is even worse IMO growing up in a better area. Also, these "street" labes he seems to have with him..really dont apply.

    Something more to think about with your great role model
     
  11. FanManII

    FanManII Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins is probably the best fighter of our era.
    A troubled young man in his younger years, who did what he thought he had to do to get by. Mistakes were made along the path of life and wisdom did not come until later.

    In and out of the system , never to return.
    Does anyone know how rare this is? A very very large percentage of those convicted of crimes enter the system, do their time, exit the system, ONLY TO RETURN to the system a short time later and end up spending he majority of their lives there.

    Somewhere out there , there is a far greater judge than any of us.
    If I were he, I'd say that Bernard Hopkins deserves a second chance.
     
  12. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Eh, Alan Minter said something similar about Marvin Hagler, along the lines of "No Black man will take my title" and he wasn't crucified for it. Hagler beat the crap out of him, however.
     
  13. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sarcasm is easy over the net..and thats why you do it.

    you can be as smug as you like when you post cheap shots like this but when i post it's the same **** i will say to someone face to face.


    my point was not to label people generally because it fits easily into what you want to say - but you've done exactly that.

    maybe we can have a 'reunion' one day so you can show people that your online persona is also who you are in real life - which it isn't by a long stretch.

    if you had character you wouldn't even try cheap shots like that over the net. and that's all that they are, champ.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You've never even been to Germantown. I don't know where you got your info., but that place is not upper middle class. It was better back when Hopkins lived there, but it still wasn't upper middle class and it's surrounded by even worse areas.

    Seriously, I want to you walk around Germantown at 1 A.M since you think it's upper middle class.
     
  15. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    If I came to germantown from Akron ohio, id likely think it was upper middle class. this type of comparison is relative..thats why i looked up census numbers.

    Yes, it is relevant. If you are raised in a middle class/upper middle class area and u fall to crime its less acceptable than someone who has to steal to eat and survive, feed their family.

    Also, Nard saying he was raised in this tough area and everything had to overcome turns out to be bull****. In points further to making my initials point.

    This is getting good!