Hopkins best victory?

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  1. alfonso

    alfonso Active Member Full Member

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    Bogart, think i agree with that top 5 are they better than:
    Hopkins
    Kessler
    Eubank
    Reid
    Mitchell

    Maybe not in terms of 'names' but if you consider potentially 4 of hopkins' best 5 were naturally smaller men??

    think there is a reasonable comparison esp when Calzaghe's next best victories are a decent level, Lacey, Bika, woodhall, Brewer & Jones
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    On both accounts really when you look at Hopkins workrate against Wright before and Pavlik after
     
  3. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  4. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    trinidad and pavlik are my personal favourites
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to agree, all smaller men except Tarver who had already been beaten 3 times prior, thats why I also think Hopkins victory over H Eastman was a good performance, as he was of a similar size to Hopkins. Eastman was one of those fighters who could turn in hot and cold performances, but Hopkins completely outclassed him.
     
  6. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tito Pavlik Tarver
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Yes, clearly better. And Hopkins' resume in general is at least a couple of names better than Calzaghe's.
     
  8. dzesmin7

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  9. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not the same? At 154 he dominated undefeated junior middle titlist David Reid, KO'd 33-1 Mamadou Thiam in three rounds, and KO'd undefeated junior middle titlist Vargas. He then moved up to 160 and brutally KO'd middleweight titlist Joppy. If anything, he appeared to be better and 154 and 160 than he had been at 147, and most of the boxing public said so.
     
  10. R.B.J

    R.B.J Active Member Full Member

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    Either Tito or Pavlik.
     
  11. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    It was Trinidad. Not that Pavlik wasn't a great win, but that doesn't have any reflection on Calzaghe's 'win' over Hopkins. It's styles.

    Pavlik was absolutely tailor made for Hopkins, a come-forward, flat-footed fighter above his best weight who only wants to fight at mid-range, and also lacking in real cutting-edge hand speed.

    Calzaghe had all the tools to give Hopkins trouble on paper. Speed of hand and foot, a high-workrate, an ability to adapt and adjust when things aren't working, and stamina to last down the stetch.

    Now whatever way you cut it, it wasn't a clear win for Calzaghe, it was close and could of gone either way. And whatever way we cut it Bernard - even if he is still elite - isn't in his prime. He is only going to deteriorate physically, it's just he has slowed this process by remaining constantly in the gym and in fantastic shape. And also his style is timeless.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Trinidad is the obvious answer, but I've come to value the DLH win much more in recent times.

    People say 'DLH wasn't a middleweight and looked rubbish in one previous fight there' and completely overlook the fact that Hopkins weighed in only two pounds north of light middleweight for that fight.
     
  13. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that was a schooling then what the hell were the wins over Tito and Pavlik?:huh

    I'd regard Tarver as Hopkins best win with Pavlik second and Tito third.
     
  14. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said, Tommy. That's a solid post.
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd say probably Trinidad.