Hopkins best wins are welterweights

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by yesihavearm, Nov 25, 2007.


  1. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    First, I hardly bash people who have a different opinion then myself, as long as they can back their opinion by fact.

    The sheer FACT that 99% of the garbage CHJ spews doesnt hold weight and is normally based on nationalistic bull**** lends credence to the statement I wrote.

    And when its not, its normally skewered by his man love of Joe Calzaghe.

    I am a fan of Calzaghe's...I am a fan of Hopkins'....and around here, I am pretty much known as a fair poster...so this had nothing to do with a difference in opinion, as it did a steady stream of stupid ass comments.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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  3. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Well, the quote thing makes it harder to answer you...but here goes.

    NO, the post I was referring to was not just that one, but also his comments on Hagler in another post....and some nationalistic bull**** he spouted as proof of his opinion (as he does ALL TOO OFTEN)...this was just the icing on the cake.

    How can a future HOFer....at top 30 ATG....have his best performance be before he even hit his prime. I dont agree with that...but again, trust me it was more than that.

    And as an american, I get sick of hearing in everyone of his ****ing posts how terrible it is to be americanized. I totally recognize that there is an american media bias...but the bias that CHJ shows on a regular basis is 100x as bad...trust me when I say, I am not the only regular poster who is sick of that ****.

    Like how a great young fighter like Cotto was going to destroy the old and overrated american fighter Mosely and us americanized fans would see....then it doesnt happen, Mosely shows he isnt old, isnt overrated....then suddenly Cotto is the one who is overrated by the american media. He is a ****in joke.

    And YES, I am aware he is an alias....I think we all know that by now. And YES, I am aware who he really is (I think its obvious by now)....I thik we all know that by now. But its all the nationalistic bull**** around here that really makes good american posters, not even want to post here anymore. Its not just CHJ, its many more...he is just their posterboy.

    The rest of what you said is fine by me....but trust me, his facts are just as bad.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I still believe you take him too much at his word. And that is a measure of his success. Many Americans get a blast out of him.

    He has obviously followed the sport for a long time and is up*on it's details.

    The opinions he tosses out are sometimes meant to get a reaction.



    I did raise the Cotto Mosley prediction with him and he responded. I scored that fight a draw, but I'm OK with Cotto getting the nod.

    When you say he's an alias, do you mean of another poster?
     
  5. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I take it you are insinuating that CHJ is an alias of Amsterdam. My biggest problem with that is the frequency of which CHJ posts. Whoever operates the accounts would literally be spending 24/7 on ESB, which is pathetic. Mosley is a great fighter, and I give him an absolute tonne of credit for how he performed against Cotto. I under estimated him also, although I think Cotto clearly won the fight even though it was close.
     
  6. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    My sig used to be a CHJ quote....I found him hilarious. The absolute funniest man on ESB. TRUST ME, I was his biggest fan.

    BUT, he has gone from funny to insulting. As I have said, many of the regular american posters have expressed (in pms to me and in replies to some of his nonsense) being fed up with his bull****. He perpetuates the american hate that goes on around here...he adds to it and fuels it. And its ****in pathetic. Like I said, its gotten so bad on here, there are plenty of solid US posters who rarely waste their time posting here anymore. Im sure some of the regulars can figure out who those people are.

    Everything he says now is americanized this...and american hype....and american bias....or if he was american we would think different.

    Again, used to be one of my fav posters...now he is a degenerate nationalist. I have been posting here for YEARS and never have I brought up nation of origin as a basis for an arguement...this guy cant go one day without it. Its not about pushing buttons, but rather adding fuel to the hate.
     
  7. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I know exactly who CHJ is....trust me....100%.
     
  8. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I pretty much agree with this. I like the way he isn't conventional in regards to forming his boxing opinions, but I don't like the anti american stuff. Sometimes it gets too much, i happen to like most of the US posters on here, apart from the Mayweather nut huggers.
     
  9. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Why keep it a secret for? If you know, then why not expose them?
     
  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Because then it opens a whole new can of worms. No need really. Just go back and look....you will figure it out.
     
  11. yesihavearm

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    You clearly dont know who CHJ is if you think he's someone elses alias.

    Both him and Decebal were at the Calzaghe/Kessler fight in Cardiff and they even posted how they both saw Mikkel Kessler after the fight together when they were leaving.
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Good to know buddy.

    :good

    Keep believing everything you read.
     
  13. David UK

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    Quite right, although you forgot to mention that Pavilk's demolition of Taylor exposed the whole Hopkins,DLH(at 160),Jones(post Ruiz) Tarver(post being born!!) Trinidad(at 160) Stinky(at 170) US Seniors Tour charade for what is actually was-a bag of SHITE
     
  14. Rumsfeld

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    :lol:

    This from a man who thinks Calzaghe is top ten fighter all-time!

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Hagler :**** Calzaghe

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  15. Smith

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    I have no doubt that B-Hops reign is overrated if you actually study the fighters (at where they where in their career & what weight they wqhqere at) he fought and beat. I'll never change my mind on B-Hop.

    Monzon, Robinson, Benvenuti, Hagler are all greater in ym eyes at MW.