Hopkins-Calzaghe in a different perspective.......

My friend i am German

 

Nope, beeing number one and beeing undisputed is something different. Sure, Joe was number one after beating Lacy but he wasn´t undisputed until he beat Kessler. And when Ottke was fighting he was the number one because he unified two belts something Joe never should interest in at the time but he wasn´t undisputed because he didn´t fight Joe. It´s actually a very easy concept.

 

You`re talking sh*t you ignorant half wit. Go and look up the Soviet military and civilian losses during WWII then compare it it US military and civilian losses and then tell you lot saved the world. :hi:

 

Doesn´t mean **** because the war wasn´t waged at US soil but at Soviet soil that makes a little bit of a difference. Also the US jumped later than GB, France or the Soviets that lowers their numbers of losses also. You should use your common sense a little bit more.

 

Lol so the Soviets saved the world by enslaving half of Europe?

I don't think I'll be depending on you for insightful historical analysis, sorry.

PS. The Soviets were German allies to kick off the war and were as much a cause of the carnage to follow as Hitler himself. Poland was invaded from two sides, Germany and the Soviet Union. I bet you didn't even know that but then again your a dip**** so I understand.

 

and germany had quite a lot of help from their plundered resources from invaded countries and slave labour. you tried to invade britain and failed just like every other country has for the last 1000 years :****off

 

That´s not the point. The point is the guy up there said GB didn´t need the help from the US but fact is without it they wouldn´t have been much of a factor.

 

Did he show any interest of fighting Beyer or Ottke? No, he didn´t. That´s fact. Why and why not doesn´t matter.

Ahmet Oener is a Turk, he isn´t even allowed to stage any fights at Germany due to his corruptness. The events you refer too happened in Turkey and Spain at Oener cards and had absolutly nothing to do with Germany.

 

Yeah Ottke was fake that´s why he unified and beat quite a few contenders. There was quite a bit controversy surrounding him but he sure wasn´t fake.
And it´s not about Ottke but about Calzahge not beeing the man of his division like Hopkins was.

btw. why aren´t you commenting on the Oener thing anymore?

 

britain gave germany it's first major defeat of the war and there wasn't an american in sight. it was the development of radar, spitfires, hurricanes and brave pilots that won the battle of britain and prevented germany from invading. america did play a big part with supplies but you could say exactly the same for germany. could germany have been succesful using only the resources contained within germany? no of course not it relied on imports just as the UK did.

 

Fact is Oener isn´t allowed to do his job in Germany because he is corrupt. yeah, he was based in Germany. And why not? As long as he plays by the rules everything is okay, when he didn´t he got banned. Oener is also the promoter of Gamboa does that mean all Cubans are corrupt and the guys fighting them will get robbed? Strange view.

Were´s the prove of your statement? Or is it just your oppinion? Because then it isn´t worth much.

 

Germany doesn´t matter here and I don´t now why you bring it up again and again. The point is that the guy said GB didn´t need the help of the US when it´s just wrong. There´s actually nothing to discuss about because it´s in the books. It´s just fact.
without the money and supplies there would have been no radar, spitfires or hurricanes - or not enough.