Hopkins fans should be good sports and admit Joe won

Calzaghe is 36 - are you saying that he's 'in his prime'?

Your opinion is in the minority for a reason mate - because you're wrong.

Have you even seen the Chris Eubank, Charles Brewer, Omar Sheika and Byron Mitchell fights (for a start).

 

Yeah, I thought Joe was 'shot' after the Bika fight but he proved me wrong. He wasn't shot; he was just starting to decline markedly.

I still think he's got enough left to beat Jones AND Tarver though. Mostly because they're shot too though :!:

 

The fight was close because Joe has a good work rate and Hop doesn't.

Saying Hop was faking a shot to his balls is absurd ... you a nut-hugger?

I have watched Joe since the mid-90s ... he was ALWAYS overrated.

Joey is one of the best 'white' SMWs of the past twenty years ... but not one of the top five SMWs of the past twenty years ....

 

Dude, I'm part Welsh and likely older than you .. I've seen most of his fights .... you saying earlier versions of Joe beat the current one? There's not much diff ....


I'm in the minority because ESB is full of a bunch of f*cking Euros ... you kidding me? Hitler would get substantive votes on this board if we were polling for 'great men and their accomplishments' ... lol

 

Hop was wildly EXAGERRATING the shot to his balls - are you denying this for one second? One minute you're saying that Calzaghe hits like a chick. Then you're saying that one of his 'slaps' (that connected with Hop's glove first) was so hard that Hopkins needed 4 minutes to recover from it.

Come on. Hopkins played it up because HE NEEDED A REST. That is cheating in my book.

I don't know any other fighter that would have pulled that stunt.

 

Aye but Hopkins is a class act.....:nut

 

BULL****. I don't know how a nut-hugger rationalizes it but where I come from we always assume that if a man gets hit in the balls (and the tape shows a punch - twice) he might be affected. What are you a little girl? No balls? No idea that sometimes even a glancing shot to a cupped athlete could produce a 'problem'? LOL - get real. I don't ever begrudge another athlete time when he gets hit accidently by ME. Joe's unwillingness to acknowledge this makes him a friggin' ****.

 

That's no excuse though. I was a huge Calzaghe fan before the BHop fight. I'm still a Calzaghe fan but he disgraced himself a bit by lowering himself to Hopkins' level.

They were both losers in this fight really - just Hopkins was the bigger loser.

 

Yeah, Joe's 'low blow' was freakin' devastating - on a par with Golota's low blows on Riddick Bowe I'd say. Or so you'd think looking at Hopkins' reaction :yep

Look, even Bowe was up quicker than Hopkins

I never said there was no effect. I said that Hopkins wildly exagerrated the pain he MAY have been feeling to buy himself time.

And by losing your cool, resorting to name calling etc. you've made it obvious that you KNOW this is true :smoke

 

Sounds like you're taking this a little personally my friend. What happened - did someone hit you in the balls recently? I feel your pain

Seriously though, chill out dude.

 

Name calling? Losing my cool? LOL. Dude, the only thing that happens on ESB is name calling and/or inflammatory statements .... you think this is an educational forum? lol

ANYtime another athlete gets nailed in the balls he gets time ... we don't evaluate the level of pain .... only nut-huggers would try and differentiate about something they can't possibly evaluate ... give it up ... it's ridiculous ... how can you exclude the possibility that his balls got choked and he was 'reduced' because of it? Face the truth ... Joey looked like ****. He's a decent fighter just not an ATG. He's just not athletically gifted enough ... he struggled with an old Hopkins ... he's between 5-10 for SMWs of the past twenty years .. that's it.

 

Now you've surprised me by sounding like a reasonable human being.

''Joey looked like ****'' - I agree. But I partly blame Hopkins for his constant holding and overall boring approach to the fight. Did Joey look like **** against Kessler? Before you start slagging Kessler off..............let's at least wait and see how Kessler does when he comes back.

''He's a decent fighter just not an ATG'' - I disagree but I suppose you could make a case for this.

''He struggled with an old Hopkins'' - Agreed but Calzaghe was quite old himself and who'd look good against Hopkins fighting like that? Tarver? Taylor? Wright? Tito? De La Hoya? Calzaghe did better than any of them - FACT.

''He's between 5 - 10 SMWs of the last 20 years'' - I'd put him at No.2 behind RJJ, but even 5-10 SWM of the last 20 years is PRETTY DAMN GOOD in my book so you agree...............Calzaghe is a pretty damn decent fighter.

What are we arguing about?

 

Now you've surprised me by sounding like a reasonable human being.

''Joey looked like ****'' - I agree. But I partly blame Hopkins for his constant holding and overall boring approach to the fight. Did Joey look like **** against Kessler? Before you start slagging Kessler off..............let's at least wait and see how Kessler does when he comes back.

''He's a decent fighter just not an ATG'' - I disagree but I suppose you could make a case for this.

''He struggled with an old Hopkins'' - Agreed but Calzaghe was quite old himself and who'd look good against Hopkins fighting like that? Tarver? Wright? Tito? De La Hoya? Calzaghe did better than any of them.

''He's between 5 - 10 SMWs of the last 20 years'' - I'd put him at No.2 behind RJJ, but even 5-10 SWM of the last 20 years is PRETTY DAMN GOOD in my book so you agree...............Calzaghe is a pretty damn decent fighter.

What are we arguing about?

 

Sorry, that was a bit of a low blow