Hopkins gets away with too much dirty tactics!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Grinder, Jul 22, 2007.


  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I was disgusted early on in the fight with all of Hopkins holding. I was embarassed to explain to my friend that he is "one of the greatest" middleweights ever.
     
  2. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    THat would have been blasphemy.
     
  3. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Expect Winky's fans to be like Winky, whinos!!!

    I had a lot of respect for Winky Wright going into this fight, but the way he kept bitching about the headbutts (and sometimes about punches), turned me off completely.

    Bernard is right, this is a fight... you don't like it? Do something, gain that respect, in order to deter your opponent from doing something dirty. Stop turning to the referee for protection.

    I'm so happy Bernard beat his ass, the tougher SOB prevailed saturday.
     
  4. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    Hopkins is a cheating ****, remember when he smashed whatshisname in the back of the head as was holding him and bumming him? He's always been a dirty ****er and it's about time refs started applying the rules and DQing him.
     
  5. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hey, if Hopkins can't win without bending the rules (and he can't) then it should be tolerated... Because he's, uh, a legend.

    That said, if Ruiz can get away with continual cheating to win, I don't see why people should chastise Hopkins for the same approach to boxing. Some boxers just aren't good enough to fight properly.
     
  6. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    Uummm...Good point.
     
  7. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yep, because the ref's job isn't to enforce the rules.

    Face it, Hopkins isn't a tough boxer: if he was, he wouldn't have to cheat to win. He relies on the referee giving him an easy time because he doesn't have the talent that most world class boxers have. After all even with his bending of the rules, he still couldn't handle Roy Jones, who is a master at dealing with the dirty boxers like Hopkins and Ruiz.
     
  8. A-50

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    Hopkins is very crafty, I find nothing wrong with his tactics.
     
  9. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Sure, the ref has to enforce the rules... But I didn't see Bernard break the rules that much, headbutts are normal between a righty and a lefty, ESPECIALLY when one of them rushes to get inside where he is at his best.

    You say that Bernard doesn't have the talent? You compare him to John Ruiz???? You are talking about the greatest boxing master alive! He didn't beat Winky on cheating, he beat Winky with superior movement and superior in-fighting... wake up!
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    stop hating hopkins beat winky up plain and simple if they can't handle his style then dont fight him. Hopkins knows every trick in the book he knows how to throw an intentional unintentional headbutt. He knows where the judges and the ref are at all times. he knows what he can get away with. This is all part of his skill
     
  11. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    gotta give hopkins credit. he seemed to break wright's will the last 3 rounds, but those rounds were tough watch. Robert Byrd got more action than the fighters :yep

    Im surprised Byrd didnt take pts away from Hopkins though since he was pretty harsh in the Wald-Brew 1 fight. I'm sure Nady would have had a stroke :rofl
     
  12. boxbox

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    hmmn...what would you have done if you were 40+ and fighting a top 3 P4P?
    the ends justifies the means...i would have been more disappointed if Bhop was younger.
     
  13. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    If a boxer continually rushes in close with his head down, ESPECIALLY again a southpaw, he should be penalised. It's one thing for Joe Frazier or Ricky Hatton to have his chin on his opponent's chest and his forehead in their face; they are/were shorter than almost all of their opponents. Hopkins is 6"1; if he's dropping his head low, he's deliberately headbutting, which is a foul. Continually fouling, if I really have to explain it to you, is cheating.

    Like Ruiz, he makes up for his lack of ability by cheating. Their methods are different, but the principle is the same.

    If he didn't beat Winky with cheating, then why did he cheat? Why does Hopkins always have to resort to dirty tactics if he's such a good boxer?
     
  14. Boinko

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    The most annoying part was the number of times the ref warned Hopkins but didn't do anything about it. I mean, there has to be a point where you penalize the guy. Otherwise, you might as well stop warning him. If you have to warn him half a dozen times, he obviously isn't listening.
     
  15. TheGreat

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    Bhops was the bigger man and he still had to cheat, he fought like Holyfield and should have been DQ'd for that ****.