winky got beat... he knew he had to deal with that ****, he was even making excuses before the fight about it, it's his fault if he wasn't prepared for it, you have a prerogative in the ring to "defend yourself at all times" wasn't Hopkins on the ropes leaning back from winky when winky got butted? doesn't sound like hopkins leading with his head to me.
It sucks that people are making so many excuses for Hopkins. A boxer should be a sportsman at all times. There is no excuse for dirty ring tactics. The referee shouldn't tolerate it, but just because the referee isn't stopping it doesn't make it right. An athlete is supposed be the epitome of self-discipline and self-control. Hopkins fouled to win. That's wrong.
It'd be nice, but, The reality of boxing is, most elite fighters bend the rules to their advantage, and Hopkins is one of the best at it. I don't like it, but it's just something about the sport you have to accept. Guys will fight dirty and bend the rules. I don't really pay much attention to it here and there since it's so frequent anyway, but if it's extreme, then I have a problem with it.
Hey cry boii . . . did you read all the posts prior to this? Of course fouling will never be right, but it's not only Bhops. Tyson, Holydield, Zab Judah, Hatton, Barrera and a lot more also fouls . . . that's the reality of this sports so if you can't live by it be gone and take a hike. :yep
B-Hop is one of the dirtiest fights of my generation.. most of you all must of turned in during the post-Trindad faze of his career. Go back and watch some older Hop fights, he always fights dirty.
I'm not a Winky fan - he has skills but doesn't put his full weight behind his punches. I am a boxing fan who woke up early to watch a s--t fight. Lucky I saw Katsidis fight or my time would have been totally wasted. Winky-X was suppsed to be a world-class fight. With all the clinching and the butting and the blindside work it was like watching Mr Bean - frustrating.
So you're okay with fouling in football, basketball, and other competitive sports. Cheating is fine. No problem with juicing or any of that. Whatever it takes to win is okay. OR Are you saying that boxing is not an honorable sport and therefore we should permit cheating in boxing while keeping the other sports on the level? Holding people to a standard of sportsmanship is not whining.
What are you talking about?, when a southpaw meets a right hander headbutts will happen anyway, it happens everytime a left hander meets a right hander. Check out Winky/Taylor(the headbutts that got Taylor's eye swollen shut), Pacquiao/Morales 1...etc HELL, Hopkins always throws a right hand and leans with his head down, he did it many times against Tarver and we didn't see any complaints about any headbutts there. This is boxing, stuff like that happen all the time and worse sometimes, Hopkins won fair and square and the headbutt in the 2nd round was CLEARLY accidental.
We're saying (or at least I am) that dirty fighting has always been a part of boxing, and while refs should do more to enforce the rules, boxers are always going to bend the rules. Like how Michael Jordan threw his elbow out when he takes it to the hoop, or power forwards throwing their shoulders and elbows out in the paint, or guys carrying on their crossovers or taking an extra step on their "first step". By now, I've just accepted and even expected that fighters will bend the rules. Dirty fighting goes back many many years throughout the generations to fighters like Greb, B. Nelson, Marciano, Pedroza, etc... Now, when fighters are very extreme about it, a la Pedroza-Laporte or Norwood-Gainer, then even that surprises me, and I expect the ref to do his job. Both guys should have been DQ'd, Paul Sita did one of the most incompetent jobs in a prize fight I've ever seen.