Hopkins, Hagler, and Monzon

But in this case, Hopkins did not put on a ton of weight after the weigh-ins. So he does not have an advantage in weight over Monzon or Hagler, and if he does, it would only be a few pounds at most.

We've seen time and time again that outweighing your opponent doesn't necessarily matter if the opponent is more skilled and you've drained yourself to make the weight, see Martinez vs Pavlik.

A lot of middleweights today still aren't that much bigger than the middleweights of the past. For example we have 5'6 Sebastian Sylvester as a title holder currently. We also have weight-drainers like Kelly Pavlik, but I don't think his size would make up for the lack of skill against men like Monzon and Hagler.

 

I don't recall his early career weights GA, I remember he was 172 against DLH though, which is allot. Weight draining also gives the problem of being drained (not always but it does somewhat). The top2 P4P do not weight drain in Mayweather and Pacquaio, although Pacquaio used to and got both size advantages and being somewhat drained imo. Mayweather never drained himself, neither did Barrera

The point is mute anyway given it doesn't detract from greatness. Size and strength in a weight class is often over looked, some from the past were a tad unconditioned or small for their weight class, this doesn't apply to Hagler/Monzon however

 

I believe he was 168 against De La Hoya. He began having problems making the weight while pushing 40's, very evident against Jermain Taylor as he looked like a drained corpse at the weigh-ins. Since then he has concentrated on putting more weight and is pretty much a 180+ lber these days.

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http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Light+Heavyweight+Fight+Antonio+Tarver+v+Bernard+-f5osd45Qafl.jpg

Size can be overlooked in some cases, but I don't think it applies here.

 

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Sylvester is 174 cm, that´s not 5'6, more like 5'7. And he is pretty aweful actually.

 

Yes, he's awful and short, whether 5'6 or 5'7. But he still holds a title in today's division, where the likes of Monzon and Hagler supposedly could not make it due to their smaller size.

 

I seem to remember the HBO weigh in stating 172 against HOya GA, could be wrong

 

174=5'8

 

Your right, 169, I must be thinking of another fight, is Hopkins muslim?

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Not for the calculater I used. :bart

 

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Nevermind.

Remember that fighters often weigh with their clothes on for the unofficial night of the fight weigh-ins. It might add a couple of pounds.

 

I usually see him listed at 172 cm.

 

I met him, he is as tall as me.