Hopkins has officially offered Calzaghe 50/50. Now let's see what happens...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by coronacards, Dec 11, 2007.


  1. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't see him calling out Jones to fight for the REAL title, not the bull**** WBO, did you???

    Besides Jones was at 175 in 1997 when Calzaghe won WBO belt. Calzaghe could've stepped up to fight him, or offered a catch weight fight, etc. Think about it...don't just blindly defend Joe. He obviously wanted no part of Jones, and who could blame him. He would've been embarrassed.
     
  2. ThePlugInBabies

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    LOL, what weightclass is trini in now? are you being serious? he's come out of the woodwork for one last payday, even this shot version of RJJ will hand tito his ass. tito beat joppy who's best win was against a 173 year old duran, then got horribly exposed by X. tito's best weight weren't 160.

    just like lacy was favourite against cazlaghe, ay numbnuts.
     
  3. TFFP

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    Hopkins lost badly to RJJ anyway

    So obviously that's not criteria for losing your status, as he's still a legend according to yanks

    So really it makes no odds whether he fought RJJ
     
  4. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Andddddd Calzaghe beat Eubank as he was in the process of losing 4 of his last 6 to end his career, and beat Kessler who (like Calzaghe) built a resume of beating bums and virtual unknowns in one division...
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not so sure about that but I would have no doubts whatsover about how to read it if Calzaghe doesn't sign... Not being sure doesn't mean much really, I hope Joe signs and makes it a great show.
     
  6. ThePlugInBabies

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    did jones want any part of him? did you see RJJ calling out joe's name around that time? this ain't all one way like you are trying to potray it.

    in 97 it wouldn't have made sense for calzaghe to take that fight, he was 23-0, green and only had eubank under his belt, it would have been stupid to bump him up and throw him in the ring straight away with RJJ.
     
  7. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right before Calzaghe fought Eubank for the vacant bull**** WBO title, Jones was the man at 168. Calzaghe made no effort to fight him. He fought Eubank instead for a bull**** title.
     
  8. TFFP

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    And Hopkins built his legacy by winning fights in which he held a physical advantage

    When he didn't hold this advantage, he lost, coincidence? **** no

    We can do this all day. Joe is still unbeaten, and will remain so. He's not losing to a black man that throws 5 punches a round
     
  9. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would Jones call out a nobody from Europe when he was making 7 figures a fight??? Are you joking?
     
  10. TFFP

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    The point is that even if Joe fought RJJ and got his ass handed to him (he wouldn't, its a close fight) it wouldn't impact on his legacy

    As Hopkins has already been owned by RJJ, and remains a legend according to yanks

    Geddit?
     
  11. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ahhh way to bring race into it dip****:good

    I guess boxing is about how many punches you throw, right? Nice and simple...

    Joe is unbeaten, because he has Eubank who was at the end of his career and Kessler on his resume. There are a lot of fighters that would be 40+ and 0 against Joe's competition.
     
  12. ThePlugInBabies

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    yeah, i mean between 98 and 2001 he was fighting the elite's like richard hall, reggie johnson, richard frazier, david telesco, otis grant, lou del valle.
     
  13. chambers80

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    Really hope this one happens and I don't think its going to be such an easy night for Joe after seeing them both at Fridays weigh in where Hopkins looked by far the bigger man.
     
  14. TFFP

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    Of course there are...

    No, boxing is not just about how many punches you throw. However you are at a severe disadvantage when you throw 5 punches a round, to your opponents 90. Especially when you couldn't knock my gran out

    Joe holds all the aces in this fight. He's younger, has more stamina, throws more punches, has a better jab. Infact, the only thing Hopkins is better at is cheating, but that's fine because he's not called Ricky Hatton
     
  15. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) If you think Calzaghe vs Jones in Jones' prime would be a close fight, then you have some serious issues with your boxing analysis...

    2) It's not about winning or losing to Jones. It's the fact that Calzaghe never tried to fight any "big name" "real deal" fighters outside of Europe...