Hopkins has to be top 10-15 ATG

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  1. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No it doesnt just means people thought you might lose. When you are the best people dont think you will lose
     
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  2. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bhop lost to Taylor both times if you cant admit that then you are blinded by your love for Bhop.

    Floyd was just the best fighter period you dont get props for being the underdog.

    Floyd took on stiff competition he just was that damn good
     
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  3. Easy_Rider

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    You do realize that they all outweigh Mayweather by a good 30-40lbs, right? Or are we just basing this off of P4P? Because P4P it becomes interesting and skewed in Mayweathers favor.

    And by that logic is it cool to say I favor Lewis over Hopkins resume? Most lose by KO, and some on the same night back to back. Lol.
     
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  4. Easy_Rider

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    Ok. Just checking. Carry on.
     
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  5. Bogotazo

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    Oh are we playing the "I hate boxing" game? I want to play!

    Hatton- midget brawler, no defense, moved up from 140
    De La Hoya-shot, no defense
    Castillo-beat him the first time, no-defense brawler
    Corrales- weight-drained, no defense
    Mosley-shot, stupid fighter who can't adjust, almost KO'd Floyd
    Cotto-damaged goods, got stopped twice already, past-prime

    Well that was easy. Let's to Pacquiao next! Then Ali and Frazier and Robinson and Duran and Leonard! :happy
     
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  6. PrinceN

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    what does race have to do with this? I dont hate Hopkins at all and I love women. Mayweather is just greater than Hopkins
     
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  7. PrinceN

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    all lies you about to cry right now?:hi::hi:
     
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  8. Bogotazo

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    Learn to read son. I said even if you count the Taylor fights as losses, BHop was past his prime.

    BHop has the greater wins, therefore has accomplished more, therefore is greater. Prove otherwise. Saying "Floyd was the best fighter period" means ****. You ride Floyd's dick harder than almost any poster on here for any other fighter.

    It's not about the 0, it's about the quality of the number in front of it. BHop has better wins.
     
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  9. PrinceN

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    Mayweather > Hopkins so if Hopkins is top 10 Mayweather is top 9
     
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  10. PrinceN

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    Mayweather was better in his prime then Hopkins was in his. At the end of the day Mayweather was a better fighter than Hopkins
     
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  11. kirk

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    Nice post.

    Ive got a question but its not an argument type question but truly a curious one.

    You think Hoya was a better win than Cloud?

    I know Cloud isnt all that, but seems like Hopkins being 48, coming off an L, and fighting a talented, natural light heavy belt holder like Cloud and dominating, is a better achievement then beating a small Hoya at a weight he should have never been at in the first place.

    Just curious what your take is on it. Im not debating Im just curious where you would rank the Cloud win.

    :good
     
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  12. LACMEXAME

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    I can agree with this. Good **** Bogo. Now can you give us the reason why Hopkins is above Pacquiao? :D
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

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    What do you view as Mayweather's signature victory from his prime?
     
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  14. kirk

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    Yes, it does :lol:

    Being the underdog means you are fighting people who are considered better then you H2H at that time.

    Beating those people, usually does mean more then beating people you are favored to beat constantly.
     
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  15. kirk

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    Hes without a doubt an ATG, I think top 20 would be too high, but just imo.
     
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