Hopkins - How High ??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Grant1, Jan 25, 2008.


  1. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is Bernard Hopkins ranked No 1 P4P by Boxrec ??

    Who on here will give Joe unconditional credit when he beats Hopkins ?

    Who will say he beat an over the hill faded great ?
     
  2. ChuckYoungblood

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  3. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I have no idea why he is ranked No. 1 by Boxrec - though Boxrec does kneejerk, maybe after defeating Winky, who was also highly rated, he scored extra.

    Hatton was No. 4 after beating Castillo, yet Mayweather's rating has gone down after beating Hatton!

    I would have Hopkins about No. 6, with Hatton No. 8 or 9.

    I will give Joe big raps for beating Hopkins, the only criticism is that he should have gone for superfights much sooner. Hopkins could hardly be classed as faded, ok he is 43, but his recent victories have all been against top fighters, and but for being ripped off against Jermain Taylor, his record would be even more impressive.
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    If Joe wins I'm stimply going to state he beat a 43 year old former great. :-((
     
  5. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    boxrec's ratings are computerized. computerized rankings SUCK ASS all around.(not as badly as, say, WBA rankings though)
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bernard is old and not the man he was a few years back, but still greta and would still beat most guys in or around the weight if not all of them.

    We all know what people think of this fight and we all know what people will say, you will get the idiots on Joe's side who will claim this win is as good a win even if the fight happened 5 years ago, and there would be the idiots on Bernards side saying bernard was too old and Calzaghe is still an over hyoed Euro Bum who got lucky. And there would be the normals, such as myself who are going to take the win for what it is.

    the best super middleweight ever fighting the best current light heavyweight, the biggest names in or around the division and the only 2 guys in the super middle/lt heavy dicision who make the p4p list going head to head in a very good, watchable match.

    CalzagheUD.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Joe probably isn't going to beat Hopkins, who is a much better and more complete boxer. But in the unlikely event that Joe should miraculously win, I'd give him quite a bit of credit.

    Unfortunately for Calzaghe, he is biting off more than he can handle.

    :smoke
     
  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    consecutive wins over Winky and Tarver, who were both ranked high p4p after their respective wins and previous bouts
     
  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Boxrec's rankings are ridiculous.
     
  10. Still~style

    Still~style Active Member Full Member

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    by beating 2 legend killers.
     
  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Why do people take boxing rec so serious ??


    Its only good for stats thats it !
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    And not even for that sometime. There is always the case of the boxrec warriors, who go look up a fight and pretend they have seen it. They can always be spotted easily, saying things like...

    "Pernell Whitaker wouldnt beat ~insert name~, he got owned by Ramirez!!!"

    or

    "Bernard Hopkins is a natural LHW, I mean, he started his career there!"

    or

    "Glen Johnson is overrated, look how many times he got beat!"

    Boxrec is great when used as a source of knowledge...but not when its used IN PLACE of knowledge.
     
  13. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So where do you guys rank Hopkins at LH ??

    Is JC fighting THE MAN at LH ??
     
  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you going a bit overboard on the first paragraph.

    but if you think Calzaghe is a ''very good fighter'' its interesting that you think all of Watson, Benn, Eubank and Collins would best him, i dont see anything on the record books or on tape that shows that.
     
  15. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P4P is subjective to different opinions across the board..

    My opinion may differ to say yours.. But w's... d's... l's .. and ko percentages can be tallied up..

    Bernard has to be up there somewhere because of 1. Longevity at the very top of the game.. He is old sure.. but it means nothing until he shows his age in a fight which he hasn't yet..

    Joe Calzaghe is underrated by many and will most probably get the win over Bernard.. in time he may be ranked as a P4P fighter, if he isn't then it is a bit biased.. He hasn't travelled to the US to box and in many ways that hurts Joseph.. Its a very odd subject..