Hopkins is getting overrated...again

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Oct 20, 2008.


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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    :lol: Why the hell would the bookmakers automatically favour the fighter with more fans???! Wouldn't they be a little more considered with favouring the fighter more likely to win to minimize losing money maybe???? :patsch

    This thread has been a failure Jack, you're talking utter shite.
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 22, 2008
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  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes the more popular fighter definitely gets an edge but it's not all based on that, some of it is but not all. Think it's fair to say that Hopkins is more popular than Pavlik even though Pavlik was being hyped insanely well Hopkins is the more popular fighter overrall and for obvious reasons so I doubt this was the case in this fight.
     
    Scar, Oct 22, 2008
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  3. DINAMITA

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    Well then your guarantee, like your opinion on this subject, is garbage.

    The bookies base their odds purely and solely on who they believe will win. If they do anything other than that, they risk losing serious money - and that is their only concern. Seriously, this is woeful. :-(
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 22, 2008
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  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly and that's after serious research with real professionals looking into it. It's not a joke as there's A LOT of money involved in this, Jack is going berserk in this thread. :lol:
     
    Scar, Oct 22, 2008
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  5. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I understand what your saying.

    However, Bernard Hopkins was a 4-1 underdog in this fight and he won...That's what has elevated the signifcance of it.
     
    soxfan57, Oct 22, 2008
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  6. PanchoVilla

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    Overrated? I dont think so, only haters will say that. I think he is excellent, superb that his passion for the sport is beyond what I expect of him. Truly one of the greats to ever lace up a glove
     
    PanchoVilla, Oct 22, 2008
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  7. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Formerly Samurai Full Member

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    Agreed. Truly impressive
     
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  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Well said. I, amongst others knew this was a stylistic nightmare for Pavlik, and he would surely lose. I also agree on your other points by taking on smaller guys, but the others took the matches, and they lost. I don't blame anything on Hopkins. He handles his career very well. I think alot of his wins are painted - much like you describe, but due to longivity, I think he has done extremely well, and looks extremely fit for a 43 year old.

    That being said, I thought Pavlik was hyped up to something he wasn't. And that is sad for the lad. I think Kelly is a good kid, with the right intentions, but he lacks some skill.
     
    DanePugilist, Oct 22, 2008
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  9. PanchoVilla

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    HOPKINS is NOT Overrated, He's a TRUE PHENOMENOL !!! :good
     
    PanchoVilla, Oct 22, 2008
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  10. C.J.Rock

    C.J.Rock Active Member Full Member

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    Neither RJJ nor PBF are fit to carry Hopkins jockstrap
    End of story
     
    C.J.Rock, Oct 22, 2008
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  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    No they don't.

    Answer me this. Why can you always get twice as much money on England winning the world cup in a country like France? Here the odds are usually 7/1 and in other countries 14/1.

    Why?

    Because in England, our football fans will put money on England regardless of what the odds are.

    You are an idiot for thinking bookmakers are honest. "Solely on who they believe will win"....absolute nonsense.
     
    Jack, Oct 22, 2008
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  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I've said numerous times in this topic, the bookmakers do analyse the stats and they form their opinion on who will win.

    However, they will also adjust those odds to suit them.

    I aksed this to PACFAN, and you can answer it too. Why would French bookmaker give better odds than you can get in England, for England to win the world cup?
     
    Jack, Oct 22, 2008
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  13. JP Slick

    JP Slick New Member Full Member

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    Hopkins would not have survived the early to mid 80's. Hagler would have takin him apart.
     
    JP Slick, Oct 22, 2008
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  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I want answers.

    If you think bookmakers do not alter the odds to favour themselves, you're an idiot.
     
    Jack, Oct 23, 2008
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  15. DINAMITA

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    Jack why are you the one keeping this thread going?! It has been abysmal, and you're talking garbage, let it go man!
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 23, 2008
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