Hopkins is going to Beat Joe up...and pretty badly.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by compukiller, Jan 21, 2008.


  1. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is obviously a talented fighter, but he has never seen anything like BHOP and has no real defense.

    Those right hands from Nard will stop that "1,000 punches a fight" real quick. The southpaw stance will make it even more difficult for Calzaghe.

    BHOP by brutal decision against a game, but befuddled and abused Calzaghe. :deal
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    B-Hop has never seen anything like him, I don't understand why this only goes one way.

    He has no defence? When he's playing defensive, he excells at not getting hit. There is a difference between a fighter who takes risks and gets tagged and one who simply has no defence.

    Bernard really doesn't have the power needed to keep Joe honest, and his timing has diminished anyway. He also can't deal with high paced fights and has to fight conservatively, this is why Joe will get a high workrate off, as usual.

    Whatever you say.:smoke
     
  3. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    WRONG again. I have seen Joe go defensive. He still gets hit..he can get cracked to the body or with an overhand right. His defense with his gloves is average. He has good movement but his head movement is not too great. He pretty much just relies on his feet to get in and out of range. You wont catch Calzaghe picking off shots. Kessler landed the same punches on him over and over and this was when Calzaghe went defensive after getting cracked with that right uppercut in round 3-4 I think. Calzaghe would lose if he ever decides to go defensive.
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I honestly dont know how you could say this...when for every 1 person who says it this way, there are 999 saying the opposite on here.

    Do you really think that Calzaghe wont be open for Hopkins lead right? You dont think he will be even more open for counters?

    If Hopkins can hit Wright cleanly (which he did better than anyone did for the past decade), then he can hit Joe cleanly. Defense shouldnt be brought up as an advantage for Calzaghe.

    He didnt have the power to keep Wright honest, yet Winky still threw about 700 less punches than he did vs his previous opponent. If Joe keeps his workrate at or around the level he had it at vs Kessler, he may get ROCKED.....doing that would be playing right into Hopkins game.
     
  5. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe eats right hands all night. Kessler pelted him with huge right hands anumber of times. He's never been difficult to hit, and BHOP has seriously underrated power, more than Joe, I can tell you that.

    Calzaghe makes too many technical mistakes to beat Hopkins, and he s going to pay for it.
     
  6. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey, MESI is undefeated!!!:D
     
  7. joe33

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    Joe sure has done well then for a guy with no real defence dont you think?,****ing hell im sure most fighters would sell there grannies to have his defence lol
     
  8. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't fight a guy like Hopkins with leaky defense. You just can't.
     
  9. joe33

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    What the leaky defence that has cost him all those knock downs and losses you mean??:lol: ,get ****ing real,if he has a leaky defence most other fighters aint got arms
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Kessler is prime, quicker and has excellent timing with superior power. Hopkins is old, he can't compare to Kessler's current timing at the moment.
    You make it out like he's 1 dimensional and flawed. He makes technical mistakes, but he's very dynamic and a great tactician.
     
  11. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A crafty veteran like Hopkins wouldn't take the fight unless he's really confident of victory. B-Hop has been around a long time and is a master of gameplans and ring generalship so I believe that he will be able to pull it off or at least look good even if he loses. I don't think Hopkins is delusional like some older fighters so I think he knows what he is doing.
     
  12. joe33

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    Hes gonna get a small fortune for it,of course a 40+ man would take the fight,i know i would most of us would to_Of course theres no way "a white boy can beat me" so hes sorted then aint he:good
     
  13. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    offensively the only thing hopkins has at least at this point in his career is a lead right hand and his usual rough house tactics. Joe Calzaghe will figure that one out and just outwork the **** out of him.
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :amen

    You are a person with common sense and logic. Indeed, a veteran like Hopkins would not have taken this fight unless if he was confident that he could pull out a win. If not win, look pretty good losing. He's not going to embarrass himself. Is there any other fighter alive today with as much ring intelligence and ring savvy as one Bernard Hopkins? I don't think so. He knows what he's doing every second he's in the ring.

    When's the last time he's been hit with a clean right hand? I didn't see one against Winky, Tarver, 2X Taylor. That's already nearly 4 years.

    Hopkins is going to have a plan that he will execute. He's not going to just go in there taking chances and not knowing what he's doing. He's going to study Joe C and expose his weaknesses just like he did with Tarver, Tito, and Winky.

    I can't wait for this one. I just hope father time doesn't catch up to Hops. :klitfanb:
     
  15. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's not 1 dimensional, but the mistakes he does make BHOP will pick up on, and style wise it will make for problems.

    And Kessler's reflexs are not on BHOP's level. He may be younger, but BHOP can still hit and not be hit, something Kessler had a big problem with against Joe C. The wide punching Andrade also hit Kessler alot, even though he was brutally dominated. Bhop is also a better counter puncher than Kessler and has better defense.

    If Sakio Bika could hit Joe at will....