Hopkins is moving up to cruiser weight to fight adamek!

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  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Hopkins is the guy who has proved everything. Why does he need to fight Dawson? He is the goods and the proven fighter not Dawson. If Hopkins beats Adamek he is cruiserweight champ and then he can move up and maybe fight heavyweight, yet with the guys there now I cannot see him fight any of those huge guys.
     
  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or he can just land a single flush power shot. The end.
     
  3. pngo

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    A fight with Dawson would bring him more money and would add more to his legacy. :deal
     
  4. MAG1965

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    I don't think Dawson would add much. I can see how Pavlik added to his legacy since Pavlik beat Hopkin's conqueror Jermain Taylor. But if Hopkins beats Dawson then boxing people will say Dawson was overrated. To be honest Dawson might be able to beat Hopkins now so why take the chance? Hopkins has a great legacy. He wants to pick up the cruiserweight title and then fight at heavyweight it seems. Maybe Adamek is an easier fight than Dawson. But how can Hopkins fight all the top guys in the divisions? He has a bigger chance of losing. He has to pick his fights wisely now. He is not going to fight the Klitchkos at heavyweight that is for sure. He will pick the lesser champ at heavyweight if he decides to do that.
     
  5. 17brandiff

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    have you ever been hit near or on the groin area(NUT SACK)!!!!
     
  6. link2296

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    if Bhop is smart, which he is, after this performance he should want nothing to do with Adamek.

    After a war with Cunningham, Tomasz was able to walk through some really stiff shots from Banks to knock him out. Adamek is a scary fighter.

    If I were Adamek's manager, I would call out David Haye!!
     
  7. MAG1965

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    also, Dawson is a big risk I admit that. If Hopkins loses against Dawson, that is his last big payday since his marketability at 44 would be hurt badly. He wants to pick up the title at cruiserweight, stay sharp and test the weight. I think his goal must be heavyweight and to see if he can do it.
     
  8. pngo

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    Undefeated, some people consider him the best 175 fighter fight and already beaten Adamek, how does a win over him won't add much to his legacy than figthing Adamek?
    But I agree that he already done alot in boxing and should be smart considering his age.
     
  9. MAG1965

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    I really doubt beating Dawson or Adamek makes a difference. As a matter of fact, beating Adamek (beaten by Dawson or not) would give him the cruiserweight title. And in 10 years that is what people will see, not the name of Dawson or Adamek on his record. He already has great fighters on his resume and good fighters. His goal is to fight heavyweight which would be the big accomplishment. Bernard's legacy will not be affected much by the fact that he beat Adamek rather than Dawson. Bernard is so much better than either fighter in legacy terms. Now if Dawson becomes as great as a Michael Spinks in years to come, then maybe it will. But if he is as good as Spinks now, then Hopkins better not fight him.
     
  10. Axe

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    Hearns gets KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds max (if he runs).

    Way too old, and his chin wasn't up to par even in his prime.

    Hopkins will at least see the 10th round, and may even win this one. He's that savvy.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    You can never count out B-Hop. But it's been thought for a while that someone who can constantly pressure him will win.

    Adamek isn't a bad boxer either. Unlike Pavlik, Adamek is good at slipping punches when he wants too, against B-Hop he can rely on his chin.

    Whoever wins it will be UGLY. If B-Hop wins it won't be pretty; unlike Pavlik, Adamek won't allow Hops to tee up on him as he'll be throwing back, he'll be comfortable at the weight and he'll constantly be walking Hopkins down. Something Pavlik was supposed to do and win on workrate alone. See how different Hopkins performed against Calzaghe, he who had handspeed and combinations in abundance. He had to stifle his opponent and try and win ugly (personally I had it 114-113 in favour of Calzaghe) and looked beautiful against a slow, intimidated youngster who seemed unable (or unwilling) to throw combinations.

    Adamek won't be like Pavlik at all. He's also naturally bigger.

    If Adamek wins, it'll be ugly, as it'll be a young, super strong, powerful Cruiserweight catching up with an old Legend and stopping him brutally. Regardless of Hop's fantastic chin (probably one of the greatest of all time) and crafty defensive style, if Adamek manages to cut the ring off and land, B-Hop WILL feel it.

    It's a genuine 50-50 fight as there are so many variables. Adamek struggled with slick boxer Chad Dawson who is also known for a slightly lacklustre workrate, although he did come on strong at the end and drop Dawson. Another variable is, was Adamek weight-drained at the time?

    I have a feeling it will go one of the two ways I described. 'Nard stifles Adamek's workrate and wins a horrible, possibly split decision, or Adamek is finally the man who has all the attributes to end the career of The Executioner; strong, good workrate, powerful, persistant, consistent.

    Either way, a man's legacy will be secured. If 'Nard wins he should retire. He would go down as a possible top 10 ATG. If Adamek wins, he will show himself to be a versatile champ ready for all comers and all styles, and the memory of the Dawson loss will be erased. He will probably make the P4p top 10 as well.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    I'm am 100% certain that if Hopkins beats Adamek he will move up and fight Valuev. I'm not kiddin', and there's no doubt in my mind that Hopkins will beat Valuev, unless the fight is in Germany. Hell, he'd win a decision over there, he'd treat Valuev like a freakish sparring partner, and Valuev would have less chance then Adamek of hurting Hop (whom I give a very good chance of hurting Hopkins)
     
  13. huggerfree

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    Bhop will out think adamek in this matchup. hE WILL FRUSTRATE, LOW BLOW, adamek the whole night.
     
  14. link2296

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    If Bhop takes this fight it will be a huge mistake. The only reason why Chad was able to escape that fight with a "W" was the fact that Adamek was so dehydrated trying to make 175. C'mon...he's now campaigning at 200.

    That's a huge difference. Bhop gets killed at cruiser against Adamek. After this performance you won't hear anything about a potential fight with Bhop.
     
  15. link2296

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    Very well thought-out post!!:good

    Bhop won't make this fight happen after this performance.