Hopkins is still no 1 pound for pound

whats technicallity means to you?? running around and grabbing ones fighters waist ???
pac is not technically sound but he makes it sure that you are not watching "dancing with the stars" :good:good

 

Its entirely reasonable to suggest that BHop beat Taylor twice. Most sensible posters would agree with you. But against Winky he looked really shot. The only reason he won was because Winky was half his size and even more shot than Bernard.
It was like watching a seniors tour (like they have in tennis) Chad Dawson would've Ko'ed the pair of them. Christ,even Clinton Woods is capable of thrashing them easily and he's not exactly a spring chicken either! They both need to retire and reflect on their atg careers!

 

How long have you watched boxing by saying something like this ?

P4P isn't meant to be a popuarity contest ..

 

it isnt.... but how long since pac making his opponents kneel in front of him and how long since bhops fool you with those tactic? :good pac is going up to whoop his opponents. that is kneeling in front of him NOT UD. bhops...nope!

 

Unfortunately a fighters style doesn't earn them points on the p4p scale. Otherwise Michael Katsidis would be in the p4p top 10 right now. SOrry to break it to you. Pac is number 2 ATM based on his achievements, although he needs to fight a top contender in his next fight.

 

dude seriously, p4p is not about knocking out your opponents. it's about beating them. there are punchers and there are boxers. both have their unique style that they use to defeat their opponents. a fan could prefer a style over the other but shoud never diminish the impact of a certain's fighters wins because you just don't like his style.

if you're talking about who the most exciting fighter p4p is, then by all means, pic pacman. but you arguing that pac should be rated above other fighters because he is more exciting is completely baseless. it makes you look foolish.

 

Well, that's an incredibly biased post.

You say that Barerra was past his prime, and Morales was shot - so it's not Pac?

How about the fact that Tarver is also past prime, possibly shot,and was coming off a long layoff? (and was never as good as the 2 Mexicans to begin with).

Wright looked like ****, was fighting 2 divisions above his weight class, and is also past prime at 35?? Possibly also shot.

You also revise history by reversing 2 - TWO!!! - results from fights.

When was the last time Hopkins officially beat a fighter below the age of 35?


Hopkins WAS up there in the P4P rankings. But now he's beating names from his generation. Not abilities. NOthing wrong with that, he's old too. But that doesn't make him the best fighter in the world today.

 

double standards. 1st of all, hop lost to taylor. we can altogether say he was robbed but it does not change the fact that he lost. twice.

then you go on mentioning that pac lost to morales and drew with jmm. but pacfans could refute that and say that the cut on pac's eye should have been ruled a headbutt by the ref which shouldn't have given morales the unfair advantage of having a target on pac's face. they could also say that pac should have won against jmm if the ref, who had it as a draw, scored the first round correctly at 10-6 rather than 10-7.

BUT, it doesn't work that way!

if you could overlook hop's losses to taylor then some people could also overlook the morales loss or the jmm draw for pac. how are we suppose to rate p4p if every fan overlooks the losses of their favorite fighters?

 

Kneel in front of them oh brotha! I am done with this convo considering what u just said ..I will be over here talking w/the grown ups ..:good

 

just another pacfanatic who won't rest until pac takes the number one spot on each and every list in boxing history

 

Exactly what I was thinking ..These nut jobs are too much .

 

otke is not an atg even if he won a lot in germany because he didn't beat the toughest opposition available. you're answering bits and pieces of the discussion rather than the whole thing.