Hopkins is / was a strategical genius

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Hopkins is one of the greatest tacticians the sport of boxing has ever seen but why did Calzaghe make superior adjustments to beat him when the likes of Trinidad, De La Hoya, Robert Allen, Hakkar, Tarver, Pavlik, Johnson, Cloud, Pascal couldn't?
     
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  2. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Notice that this guy put Hakkar in the same sentence as De La Hoya and Tito Trinidad.
    You guessed it, he's just trolling.
    Ignore him and he'll go away.
     
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  3. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Very harsh Viva, Hakkar was a quality mandatory and belongs in the same category as Oscar and Felix as Hopkins master-classes imo

    B-Hop simply solved the hakkar puzzle and made the necessary in-fight adjustments.
     
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  4. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Great thread, HEAD. He couldn't solve the Zaggers puzzle. 45 tried, and 45 failed.
     
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  5. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This guys doesn't really mean that.
    He doesn't think this is a "great thread" he's just having fun.
    Ignore him as well.
     
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  6. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Its an interesting conundrum :deal

    Hopkins was so clever tactically, he worked opponents out as the fight wore on. With Calzaghe, Hopkins had every advantage ( the ref, the judges, the venue, the weight) and yet he couldn't capitalize on a great 1st rounds, why was that? :huh
     
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  7. slantone

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    simply because calzaghe was awkward as hell, unpredictable, a southpaw, and a bloody good fighter in his own right.

    great boxer, tacticians are able to anticipate and react. But with a guy like calzaghe- they have the most trouble- look at floyd may weather- his toughest fight? emanual augustus. not the best fighter- but he had the traits to trouble him and give him a headache.
     
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  8. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Who is this no mark? :lol::rofl:rofl:patsch
     
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  9. Farmboxer

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    Calzaghe made Hopkins look like a fool. So did Dawson, Taylor, Jones, etc...............Hopkins refused to fight Kovalev when Kovalev was Hopkins' mandatory. Hopkis said he would never fight Kovalev or Stevenson.........
     
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  10. Brake it down

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    Hopkins beat joe he was robbed he won the first six rds easy with a knock down there were a few close rds in the later rds that could have gone any way Hopkins was robbed even jones who does not like him said he should have got the win
     
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  11. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What was his strategy against Dawson? I know he was old as hell, but that was way too easy for Dawson.
     
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  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    And the judges were Hopkins judges in Hopkins' own territory. It was Calzaghe who traveled over seas to fight Hopkins. I saw the fight, Calzaghe made him look like a fool. Taylor, Dawson, Jones, etc., all made Hopkins look a fool. I did like Hopkins as a middleweight, but never liked him after he went up in weight..................Kovalev and Stevenson are Hopkins' worst nightmare...............
     
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  13. Brake it down

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    He lost cause he said "I will never lose to a white boy" he count on a master class and boxed joes ears off joes daddy was going crazy at joe in the corner lol
     
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  14. damian38

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    a 43 year old can't fight at that high of a pace that Calzaghe, no matter what planet he is from
     
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  15. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Resume is a bit thin when you have to prop up a very close, indecisive fight with a 43 year old who knocked you down as some great win. No?
     
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